Nevermind my request for a disable flag, sorry I'm tired.. forgot the old bug database mentioned -J-Dnetbeans.slow.system.clipboard.hack=false
trying that... On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: > If there is something more I can do please let me know... I've tried to > get any relevant logs (I can't find anything interesting). > This basic feature not working is driving me mad. Can we perhaps just get > a flag to disable any old workarounds and just always use the system > clipboard? > > Scott > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:47 PM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So I've set this in my netbeans.conf file, but I don't notice anything >> that stands out in the logging. Which file would it be in messages.log or >> uigestures? >> There is nothing relevant in messages.log and uigestures just shows that >> a paste was attempted - even though the wrong content was pasted (last >> thing copied from within Netbeans rather than what is on the system >> clipboard). >> >> This is the record form uigestures: >> >> <record> >> <date>2021-04-29T11:30:43</date> >> <millis>1619710243434</millis> >> <sequence>1644</sequence> >> <logger>org.netbeans.ui.actions.editor</logger> >> <level>500</level> >> <thread>26</thread> >> <message>UI_ACTION_EDITOR</message> >> <key>UI_ACTION_EDITOR</key> >> <catalog><null></catalog> >> >> <param>java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Ctrl+V,when=1619710243434,modifiers=Ctrl] >> on >> org.openide.text.QuietEditorPane[,0,0,1300x11788,layout=javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI$UpdateHandler,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=com.formdev.flatlaf.ui.FlatMarginBorder@74a6a46d >> ,flags=296,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,caretColor=java.awt.Color[r=187,g=187,b=187],disabledTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=136,g=136,b=136],editable=true,margin=java.awt.Insets[top=0,left=0,bottom=0,right=0],selectedTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=187,g=187,b=187],selectionColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=75,g=110,b=175],kit=org.netbeans.modules.editor.java.JavaKit@3c33afe2 >> ,typeHandlers=]</param> >> >> <param>java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Ctrl+V,when=1619710243434,modifiers=Ctrl] >> on >> org.openide.text.QuietEditorPane[,0,0,1300x11788,layout=javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI$UpdateHandler,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=com.formdev.flatlaf.ui.FlatMarginBorder@74a6a46d >> ,flags=296,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,caretColor=java.awt.Color[r=187,g=187,b=187],disabledTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=136,g=136,b=136],editable=true,margin=java.awt.Insets[top=0,left=0,bottom=0,right=0],selectedTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=187,g=187,b=187],selectionColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=75,g=110,b=175],kit=org.netbeans.modules.editor.java.JavaKit@3c33afe2 >> ,typeHandlers=]</param> >> >> <param>org.netbeans.editor.BaseKit$PasteAction[paste-from-clipboard]</param> >> <param>org.netbeans.editor.BaseKit$PasteAction@70200aee</param> >> <param>paste-from-clipboard</param> >> </record> >> >> Regards, >> >> Scott >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:20 PM Geertjan Wielenga >> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: >> >>> As stated there: “ Please run with logging enabled >>> (-J-Dorg.netbeans.core.NbClipboard=-1) and attach the >>> >>> part of log that records what happened during the broken situation.” >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 22:12, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > The discussion on this old bug seems to be most relevant: >>> > >>> > https://bz.apache.org/netbeans//show_bug.cgi?id=41098 >>> > >>> > Over 16 years ago this was apparently a JDK issue. (People were using >>> JDK >>> > 1.4 at the time.) >>> > See Comment 21 < >>> https://bz.apache.org/netbeans//show_bug.cgi?id=41098#c21 >>> > > >>> > >>> > I suspect the workaround (which never really worked properly) isn’t >>> > required anymore. >>> > >>> > Scott >>> > >>> > >>> > > On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Both directions to/from a NetBeans editor to/from something outside. >>> > Not consistent, but frequent enough - multiple times a week. >>> > > >>> > > It seems when this occurs it is like the NetBeans editor has a >>> private >>> > clipboard. Pasting outside NetBEans pastes the last thing copied >>> outside >>> > of NetBeans. Pasting within a NetBeans editor pastes the last thing >>> copied >>> > from a NetBeans editor. >>> > > >>> > > Very frustrating when you are trying to copy to an email or a remote >>> > desktop session, or between stack overflow etc... >>> > > >>> > > Scott >>> > > >>> > >> On Apr 8, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >>> > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto: >>> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> It’s 100% about copying text from any NetBeans editor to somewhere >>> > outside >>> > >> NetBeans? Or also the reverse? Consistently or sporadically? >>> > >> >>> > >> Gj >>> > >> >>> > >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 21:57, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com >>> <mailto: >>> > swpal...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Windows 10 >>> > >>> JDK 8 through 16 >>> > >>> >>> > >>> See prior discussion here: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202102.mbox/%3c21fb7d82-e02c-4a4f-8bd7-605615cc5...@gmail.com%3e >>> > < >>> > >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202102.mbox/%3c21fb7d82-e02c-4a4f-8bd7-605615cc5...@gmail.com%3e >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> > >>> It seems many of us are just used to Copy and Paste not working >>> > properly >>> > >>> and we have various strategies to work around it. It shouldn’t be >>> > that way. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Scott >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >>> > >>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Operating system, JDK version, please... >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Gj >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 7:13 PM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com >>> > <mailto:swpal...@gmail.com> <mailto: >>> > >>> swpal...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>>> I know it probably is the same as before, but today it seems >>> worse in >>> > >>> 12.4 >>> > >>>>> beta 2 than it was in 12.3. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Cut and paste is such basic functionality that when it doesn’t >>> work >>> > it >>> > >>> is >>> > >>>>> a major source of frustration. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Today I have been fighting cut and paste not working with >>> NetBeans >>> > 12.4 >>> > >>>>> beta 2 for a few hours. Jumping through hoops to cut some text >>> out >>> > of a >>> > >>>>> NetBeans editor and paste it into something else is not how I >>> wanted >>> > to >>> > >>>>> spend my morning. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> This was discussed briefly in early February (see thread “System >>> > >>> Clipboard >>> > >>>>> Issues”) >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> It is has been reported here >>> > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159 < >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159> < >>> > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159 < >>> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159>> >>> > >>>>> Though that description is perhaps incomplete. Both copying from >>> > >>> NetBeans >>> > >>>>> and pasting to NetBeans are affected. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> If you are doing cut and paste entirely within NetBeans you may >>> not >>> > see >>> > >>>>> the issue. It is only when you want to cut and paste between >>> NetBeans >>> > >>> and >>> > >>>>> an external program that it fails. And it fails very frequently >>> in >>> > that >>> > >>>>> case. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> The sense I got was that NetBeans was trying to work around a >>> bug in >>> > the >>> > >>>>> JRE by using it’s own private clipboard. I suspect the original >>> JRE >>> > >>> issue >>> > >>>>> is long gone and NetBeans is just creating more problems with an >>> > awkward >>> > >>>>> workaround for a problem that isn’t there. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Regards, >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Scott >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >>
