Excellent work, Venus and Peter! Looks great! I can help review and adjust a
few pixel alignment issues, but this work will definitively be usable.
I could do another Zoom chat most days 8am-11am Hong Kong time, for instance.
(I'm on US east coast time now.)
-- Eirik
From: Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 4:19 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com>; Venus Chung <ve...@quantr.hk>
Cc: Apache NetBeans <dev@netbeans.apache.org>; Peter Cheung
<mcheun...@hotmail.com>; Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
Hey Eirik and All
Please check the attachment. Is the designs good? Sorry i was so busy. Have
a sync up meeting?
Thanks
From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , Mobile :
96554595)
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From: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:48 AM
To: Venus Chung <ve...@quantr.hk>
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Peter Cheung <mcheun...@hotmail.com>; Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
In case it is helpful, I made a quick screencast video showing the icon drawing
process I used in the past, in Adobe Illustrator:
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/667860571
-- Eirik
From: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:35 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com>
Cc: Venus Chung <ve...@quantr.hk>; Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>; Apache
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Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
No worries, thanks for the update!
Le mer. 19 janv. 2022 à 14:35, Eirik Bakke
<eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>> a écrit :
Sorry about that--thank you for your help with this project! Happy to answer
any questions, or to do a screen sharing session.
(When I was drawing icons myself, it took me many hours to figure out the right
tools to use in Illustrator to get the right result. But it goes faster after a
few icons!)
There is also a style guide at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 .
-- Eirik
From: Venus Chung <ve...@quantr.hk<mailto:ve...@quantr.hk>>
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To: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>>; Peter Cheung
<pe...@quantr.hk<mailto:pe...@quantr.hk>>;
dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>
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Subject: 回覆: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
Dear All,
I made a mistake,I designed the wrong icon, it needs to be redesigned, please
give me more time.
Best Regards,
Venus
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寄件者: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>>
寄件日期: 2022年1月18日 下午 11:11
收件者: Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk<mailto:pe...@quantr.hk>>;
dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>
<dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>>
副本: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com<mailto:arafat...@gmail.com>>; Peter
Cheung <mcheun...@hotmail.com<mailto:mcheun...@hotmail.com>>; Venus Chung
<ve...@quantr.hk<mailto:ve...@quantr.hk>>
主旨: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
Hi, Peter.
Thank you so much for these efforts!! Could we see what the icons look like
without Pixel Preview enabled? (View->Pixel Preview in Illustrator)
Might you also send the latest version of the Illustrator file? I'd love to
have a look at grid alignments, and see the new icons against the background
layer with the old bitmap icons, and at different resolutions etc.
Happy to meet next week. I could do anytime 8am-11am Hong Kong time, for
instance. Feel free to pick a day.
Thanks again very much to Venus and you!
-- Eirik
(Now on US east coast time.)
From: Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk<mailto:pe...@quantr.hk>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:45 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>>;
dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com<mailto:arafat...@gmail.com>>; Peter
Cheung <mcheun...@hotmail.com<mailto:mcheun...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
Dear Eirik & All
Let's have a wrap-up meeting next week?
Thanks
From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , Mobile :
96554595)
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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:36 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>>;
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<dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>>
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Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
Dear all
Please see the last three rows, is the style matched?
Thanks
From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , Mobile :
96554595)
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From: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>>
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<dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>>
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com<mailto:arafat...@gmail.com>>; Peter
Cheung <mcheun...@hotmail.com<mailto:mcheun...@hotmail.com>>; Peter Cheung
<pe...@quantr.hk<mailto:pe...@quantr.hk>>
Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
I think I understand your goal, and this thread now has a good summary of pros
and cons.
Again, this is really up to whoever does the icon drawing work. Myself, I have
just contributed the icons that happened to be used in my NetBeans Platform app.
Would you be interested in participating in the actual icon drawing process, by
the way? Or is the use of Adobe Illustrator a deal-breaker for you? My company
could pay for a license.
Alternatively we could try to work out an Inkscape process, if someone wants to
commit to drawing a significant number of icons in it (separate from the ones
Peter Cheung is working on). Although the lack of an Artboards feature in
Inkscape could be a problem.
-- Eirik
[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13026411/13026411_210604+Icons+Overview+Cropped.png
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From: Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:18 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <arafat...@gmail.com<mailto:arafat...@gmail.com>>; Peter
Cheung <mcheun...@hotmail.com<mailto:mcheun...@hotmail.com>>; Peter Cheung
<pe...@quantr.hk<mailto:pe...@quantr.hk>>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 15:48, Eirik Bakke
<eba...@ultorg.com<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>> wrote:
> Sorry, to clarify: The point about the color palette was my own. My argument
> is that the existing NetBeans icon style is not very well-suited for
> assigning logical colors. In order to designate a meaningful, configurable,
> "accent color", for example, we would have to change the overall color
> palette of the entire icon set. And that's something that's easier to do
> after-the-fact than up-front (see my earlier explanation for why).
This is where I somewhat disagree, although I think we're talking about
different things.
Take 3 different icons - folder, warning, and lightbulb (not sure we have one,
but ...)
They might all be the same shade of yellow. However, maybe you want the folder
icons to take on the accent colour of a look and feel, while a dark theme might
want to make the shades of the other two a darker yellow, or just the warning
to match other things in the theme.
Maybe we want to edit the icon files later - this could apply there as much as
in icon loading.
The point was that to have the icons encode the context of a fill colour (eg.
CSS class), as well as the colour itself, is potentially useful in multiple
ways. And as far as I'm aware, easier to define upfront in a template for all
icons, than later. At least in Inkscape (I'm a libre graphics person! :-)) I
would set up the common stylesheet / palette first, then apply to each shape.
Best wishes,
Neil
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