I was looking at the "nbPython Mercurial '' repo (
https://sourceforge.net/p/nbpython/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ ) as well as
a forked mavenized version https://github.com/timboudreau/netbeans-contrib
) and picked a random files and found there are some files without any
headers and others with Oracle copy right and CDDL license markings like
the below.

So here is my license inexperience here...does this mean I can't remove
this header (and relicense to Apache for example) without approval (i.e.
similar to the Donation process in work) or keep the same markings and add
to it with additional licenses applicable?

Side note, the license URL listed at http://www.netbeans.org/cddl-gplv2.htm
is not accessible anymore.  Is a redirect needed for this?


 * DO NOT ALTER OR REMOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICES OR THIS HEADER.
 *
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 *
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affiliates.
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 * General Public License Version 2 only ("GPL") or the Common
 * Development and Distribution License("CDDL") (collectively, the
 * "License"). You may not use this file except in compliance with the
 * License. You can obtain a copy of the License at
 * http://www.netbeans.org/cddl-gplv2.html
 * or nbbuild/licenses/CDDL-GPL-2-CP. See the License for the
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 * Notice in each file and include the License file at
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Eric Bresie
[email protected]


On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 12:54 PM Ernie Rael <[email protected]> wrote:

> It seems like you missed my main point. I'm familiar with the history of
> the oracle donations and python; it's seems unlikely it will ever be
> donated.
>
>     The NB python code can be used in a plugin portal project.
>     I just looked. The python stuff in the old contrib area is
>     "CDDL-GPL-2-CP" so it can freely be used in any project.

-ernie
>
> On 4/2/22 10:30 AM, Eric Bresie wrote:
> > Regarding the license…
> >
> > Based on previous conversations as I’m aware, there was the original
> nbPython development, which basically forked with much of it becoming part
> of the contrib in the codebase in Oracle control which fell under
> applicable Oracle IP and licensing concerns.
> >
> > When Netbeans was donated to Apache, the code for the contrib had to be
> done in separate drops of donation to ensure proper IP and licensing
> venting was addressed.  The contrib/nbpython was to be part of donation 6
> but has not been finalized yet.
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ernie Rael <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 10:21:22 AM
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Usage of NBPython Code
> >
> > Isn't the python code CDDL or somesuch?
> >
> > If your project is made available as a plugin, then you don't have to
> > worry about Apache licensing issues and you can use whatever you want
> > within whatever license. Python support could be loaded through the
> > plugin portal.
> >
> > On 4/2/22 7:43 AM, Eric Bresie wrote:
> >> I am presently working on a new LSP based Python plugin (
> >> https://github.com/ebresie/python4nb) which is still in early
> development,
> >> and was hoping to avoid having to reproduce too much, hoped to leverage
> >> some existing code from nbPython.  This is  not necessarily the version
> >> from the 8.x Netbean code base contrib which is still awaiting formal
> >> donation.  If this does get donated then working with that would be
> >> preferable but in lieu of that, I'm working on as much of a new LSP
> based
> >> implementation as possible.
> >>
> >> Many of the nbPython sites and pages (http://nbpython.org/) have not
> >> actively been updated since about 2015 or are no longer reachable.
> There
> >> seems to be some presences on SourceForge site (
> >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/nbpython/ ) from which some version of
> >> code is available (
> >> https://sourceforge.net/p/nbpython/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ ).
> >>
> >> I hoped to reach out here to see if anyone on the list could speak for
> the
> >> former nbpython developers and to determine if usage of any of this
> >> codebase is possible.  If not then I will work on new code  where
> necessary
> >> but figured it may help speed up the process.
>
>

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