On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 19:26, Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com> wrote: > As you probably know, I am not participating in day-to-day development of > NetBeans.
And for those of use who are more involved day-to-day, it's causing issues, and creating work (including the issue that kicked off this thread). That one I argued we should fix and keep the validation tests on JDK 8, and put time into fixing. I'm personally not prepared to invest any more of my time into this in future though. > At any vote you ever call - even if I miss it. Please be so nice and make sure > I know that a vote is about to happen. Otherwise I will challenge that vote at > Apache authorities. Why are you directing this at me personally? Any PMC member could call a vote on this. I'd quite like to get a consensus way forward, and the framework aspect of NetBeans, and the needs of those users, is really key for me as I've argued already in this thread. > That's what I have been providing to you for the last three years (at least). > You were never listening to me. Whenever I tried to move NetBeans IDE forward, > while keeping the wide usability of NetBeans Platform, you said no. Again, is this addressed at me personally? I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I've certainly listened to your proposals. I don't believe they could have addressed many of the points that have been raised though. > Threatening with a "non-veto" vote on a code issue is a bit nasty, but I can > live with it. No-one is threatening anything, so please stop assuming bad faith. I was pointing out the logical conclusion of where this ends up. > Just keep me informed, so I can mobilize supporters. As Matthias pointed out in his thread, what's needed is supporters who are also willing to pick up the work required. > > And soon we'll end up with 8, 11, 17, 21 and 22-ea. That does not > > feel sustainable. > > Why not? It is a machine doing the testing and it runs "for free". It's certainly not free. ASF has testing infrastructure sponsored by GitHub, but it's not unlimited, and we're a fairly heavy user as it is. The time taken for tests to run also has knock-on implications. Best wishes, Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists