Hi Eric, On 26.02.25 16:28, Eric Barboni wrote: > Hi > jumping late in the discussion but we need to take some action before next > release I think.
yep! I am not on windows. But if we still have committers which use it periodically (and have time to spare), we could take a look at some downstream packages, e.g https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/tree/master/manifests/a/Apache/NetBeans and check if it can be changed to install the zip (https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/issues/140). since it links right now to an artifact which doesn't even exist: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/blob/master/manifests/a/Apache/NetBeans/24/Apache.NetBeans.installer.yaml (so my guess is that it won't install) There is also no package for NB 25 yet so it would be a good opportunity to get a PR in. (I never used winget for anything but wiki says it works on both win 10 and 11) for linux committers with spare time: - https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/netbeans/ would need to be updated since it ships NB22 - https://wiki.debian.org/Netbeans debian recommends our deb package - so nothing we have to do outside of keep releasing it - fedora has NB 25 in their flathub - nothing to do there (+ we also offer the rpm) deb+rpm+arch covers probably 95% of the linux world so we are good. mac: - mac is covered by our .pkg artifact, right? > > Removing nbi windows trying to get wine+iscc in the ci jenkins to align with > the two others debian/rpm already package could be an option too. > Was looking for lightweight alternative with nsis as Apache Directory Studio > had something working with that. Could be doable but macos still behind for > that. > > > But but, we will still ship nbbuild within the source, so why no using it > anyway, we sign that :D ? I can't really help there much, but we have community packages linked which are able to reliably install NB+Runtime JDK on windows. So this is technically a solved problem (for now) IMO. We can't release a JDK bundle I believe. But as long PMCs (in the sense of community members we trust) provide those outside of apache - we can certainly continue linking to them as trusted downstream package offering below the main zip release artifact. We cant rely on the existence of community packages since they may disappear. If there is nothing else we can recommend we always have the zip. > > > I think we need to "prune" and remove usage along code base to align with > unmaintained code statement of Michael. > > This removal will reduce harness artefacts possibility in it. > > This will lead to mavenutilities task for building installer not working. > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-plugin/blob/master/nbm-maven-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/netbeans/nbm/BuildInstallersMojo.java > > We will need removal for that part > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-jenkins-lib/tree/master/resources/org/apache/netbeans is this a general cleanup task or has this to be done before release? But sure lets deprecate the installer mojo (+webstart btw). > We need also to tell/tools user of nbm-plugin / ant on how to migrate to > nbpackage doc would be great yeah ;) best regards, michael > > Eric > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> > Envoyé : mardi 4 février 2025 18:14 > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org > Objet : Re: Re : Re: heads up: windows installer/uninstaller issues > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 at 16:21, Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On 2/4/25 02:54, Jerome Lelasseux wrote: >>> My 2 cents: is it possible to do an online poll with NB users ? >> Well, not really and the fate of the convenience installers shall be >> decided here by this community. >> >> Users can wish for anything, the effort we feel we are willing to put >> into some features is something else. > Agreed! And we do also have access to eg. download information via > https://infra-reports.apache.org/ that is probably more useful data if > we do want to prioritize. > > Neil > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
