Hey Michael, thx for the feedback.
For me there was a real intention. I said hey dude (to the designer) please use this logo (current one) of NetBeans and make a new one for the style what we have nowadays (Flat, Material, no-3D, no Web 2.0, no 1996). It is a cube I said, not more. So he created some drafts. The thing with the lighter/darker side I can understand, but it is a perspective thing. I can see it is the same contrast (outer "cube") of the sites like from the inner cube, this is a perspective thing like glas where you see a cube inside a glas cube for example. But it is only my opinion, I can ask the designer for more details on that. Some guys like the current one, I really don't know why but I have a lot of benefits on the new ones as they do it right (Rebrand, style from nowadays, fits into the new Homepage style, etc.). It is not that I don't like the current one, I liked it earlier when it was hip to do it but the style doesn't fit anymore it is old fashion (Yeah sure some of us like vintage or stuff from the days from 1886 - Me too (+ future things = steampunk)) but this is not the mass. The same as the homepage style. A lot of people doesn't like pages from 1996, yeah I know and lot of people doesn't like new page styles but the CVR of a lot of pages shows that it is time to change the style from time to time to new ones (Yeah NetBeans does need a better CVR because we don't sell smth but I think the point is clear). You don't have to make each trend with it like material design and what comes next? I don't know. But as for IDEs I can say the big players change the brand some months/years ago like Visual Studio, IntelliJ, maybe eclipse too? I don't know. And I think it is a perspective thing. If someone sees an old page and an old logo from the 1996, form the first point of view and this is decisive in my opinion, the brand is a big part of a decision, whether I want to use a product or not. Sure the other percentages are the functionality, but if it hurts my eyes, I don't want to use such a product. I know I spoke about the style of the HP but the same happens for the logo too. So final words, the decision was to make a new, cool logo for the 21st century which fits in this time and in the new style of the new homepage. It is really needed. Regards Chris Gesendet: Montag, 26. Dezember 2016 um 23:33 Uhr Von: "Michael Müller" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo Hi Chris, Some of the new logos look nice. But personally I have some problems: The lights on the "outer cube" are different from the "inner cube". Thus it does not really fit. Too me, it looks like a big border, folded the other way. (For the inner cube left front is light, and for the outer right front is light) Moving the eye away, it becomes hard to recognize the inner part being a cube. The outer "border" now looks more like a hexagon. Is this by intention? To me, the only "real" cubes are the one from the existing logo and the grey one. What is the intention of the logo? Fitting things together? If this is symbolized by a cube, than I vote for the existing logo. If it shall be symbolized by "cube in cube", I propose to synchronize the light to come from the same direction for both cubes. Or maybe we create a cube built up by a jigsaw (puzzle)? Than the elements really need to fit together. Just some thoughts... Herzliche Grüße - Best Regards, Michael Müller Brühl, Germany blog.mueller-bruehl.de <http://blog.mueller-bruehl.de/> it-rezension.de <http://it-rezension.de/[http://it-rezension.de/]> @muellermi Read my books "Web Development with Java and JSF": https://leanpub.com/jsf[https://leanpub.com/jsf] "Java Lambdas and Parallel Streams": http://www.apress.com/de/book/9781484224861[http://www.apress.com/de/book/9781484224861] "Visitors" a photographic image book: https://leanpub.com/visitors[https://leanpub.com/visitors] On 12/26/2016 12:26 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: > Thx Matthias, > > good point. I didn't know how to start so I set this first to create a > voting. Of course all repesents (from me) are very not final, details are > mising like fonts, the cubes are not looking well etc. But those are first > drafts from the designer. He won't dive into deep to create a detailed logo > if no one wants a new one. So thats why we decided to created drafts. Those > are not final, only to get an idea what could be possible. > > I added 2 more drafts, changed by myself with Apache on top of it and the > feather as mentioned. So if others want to contribute logos sure, you can. > But as another member said, we should not have to many. We should really > focus on that what we have otherwise we have to much to decide. I think the > way is clear in which direction it should go. > > How you want to open a discuss? Via mailinlists? It is a mess for voting too. > We should live talk about it if it is possible, maybe next year in january. > > So ok we can cancel the vote for now and bring it back later. Now we can > catch feedback. > > > Regards > > Chris > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. Dezember 2016 um 15:59 Uhr > Von: "Matthias Bläsing" <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo > Hi, > > Am Sonntag, den 25.12.2016, 14:00 +0100 schrieb Christian Lenz: >> Please if someone can't vote, leave a comment for what you want to >> vote and I will change the number. >> Yes a feather and apache would be ok for me (in my opinion if it is >> needed). Apache would be enough I think. >> Instead of the IDE it could be the feather. > sorry - but this is nuts. Voting at this point is useless. Please: > > a) Gather all options > b) Open a discuss and do refinement > c) Ask for votes on the final set > > Currently a/b/c are happily interleaved. So people who decide to vote, > vote on unfinished entryset. People that might want to comment on the > logos itself might be held back by ongoing votes. The same goes for > others proposing new variants. > > Is there a reason for this haste? > > Greetings > > Matthias >
