I never shall use my smartphone with it's crude auto correction.

That's what I posted:

And, Mandy Apache projects rising xy.apache.org <http://xy.apache.org> sie their specific Main website, too.

And, that's what I originally wrote:

And, many Apache projects using xy.apache.org <http://xy.apache.org> have their specific Main website, too.


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On 05/14/2017 11:43 AM, Michael Müller wrote:
My Two pence:

Netbeans.com <http://Netbeans.com> would indicate closed Source, whilst Netbeans.org <http://Netbeans.org> Stands for Open Source.

Thus, a second Emililan's proposal. And, Mandy Apache projects rising xy.apache.org <http://xy.apache.org> sie their specific Main website, too.

Am 14. Mai 2017 10:00:58 MESZ schrieb Emilian Bold <[email protected]>:

    I see little gain in usingnetbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org>  
vsnetbeans.org <http://netbeans.org>. The previous site is well known and we can 
promote our Apache future in many other ways.

    The split seems logical: users vs dev.

    There's no data to imply a general perception of a "closed" project that 
doesn't need participation. NetBeans has been an open source project for a decade or two 
already!

    Thenetbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org>  domain is an Apache demand. 
I would actually make redirects the other way around, by keepingnetbeans.org 
<http://netbeans.org>  as the main site.

    --emi

    Pe 14 mai 2017, la 09:35, Ognyan Kulev <[email protected]> a scris:

        Dear all, I think it's better to have single
        netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org>. There are no
        technical obstacles for redirecting from netbeans.org
        <http://netbeans.org>. It's true that netbeans.org
        <http://netbeans.org> is the name that people know but this is
        also the name that people connect to corporate-developed
        NetBeans. Having netbeans.apache.org
        <http://netbeans.apache.org> as primary website will send a
        message that NetBeans is now an open community that welcomes
        participation by Apache rules. If netbeans.org
        <http://netbeans.org> is left as marketing and consumer
        website, this leaves the impression that we produce quality
        product in the same "closed" process as before (although AFAIK
        it is not entirely true for the nowadays NetBeans) and
        NetBeans don't need participation in its development. I added
        the following to
        
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69408938
        : * There are no technical obstacles to keeping all
        netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org> links perfectly working by
        using redirection. * Single netbeans.apache.org
        <http://netbeans.apache.org> will send clear message that
        NetBeans is open community that welcomes development
        involvement. It is also "cutting of ties" with the perception
        of the previous "corporate model". * There will always be some
        confusion why there is such split. * OpenOffice.org
        <http://OpenOffice.org> is not a good example for splitting
        because the name of the software is "OpenOffice.org
        <http://OpenOffice.org>" so they have to keep it. Also, OOo is
        consumer software so it's not expected that users will
        participate in its development. * Example of using the old
        domain is groovy-lang.org <http://groovy-lang.org> but they
        decided to not use groovy.apache.org
        <http://groovy.apache.org> at all, so again it's single domain
for the project and no split. Best regards, Ognyan



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