I think a reasonable split is renaming the platform to something new. There is SO much confusion when I tell people that "it's built on Netbeans Platform". They either have no clue (a good thing) or they think of the ide (a bad thing). There are so many packages starting with openide or opendesktop or something similar. It should just be the ODT - Open DeskTop or ODF - Open Desktop Framework. It's for desktop applications, not for smartphones etc. and it's not the netbeans ide.
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote: > puh, not sure about that. > Usually .org and .net, .com etc are just aliases to the same pages. > > I'd rather have seperate sub pages for dev and endusers both on the same > domain. > > Would need to think more about a reasonable split. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > Am 14.05.2017 um 11:43 schrieb Michael Müller <michael.mueller@mueller- > bruehl.de>: > > > > My Two pence: > > > > Netbeans.com would indicate closed Source, whilst Netbeans.org Stands > for Open Source. > > > > Thus, a second Emililan's proposal. And, Mandy Apache projects rising > xy.apache.org sie their specific Main website, too. > > > > Am 14. Mai 2017 10:00:58 MESZ schrieb Emilian Bold < > [email protected]>: > >> I see little gain in using netbeans.apache.org vs netbeans.org. The > >> previous site is well known and we can promote our Apache future in > >> many other ways. > >> > >> The split seems logical: users vs dev. > >> > >> There's no data to imply a general perception of a "closed" project > >> that doesn't need participation. NetBeans has been an open source > >> project for a decade or two already! > >> > >> The netbeans.apache.org domain is an Apache demand. I would actually > >> make redirects the other way around, by keeping netbeans.org as the > >> main site. > >> > >> --emi > >> > >> Pe 14 mai 2017, la 09:35, Ognyan Kulev <[email protected]> a > >> scris: > >> > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> I think it's better to have single netbeans.apache.org. There are no > >> technical obstacles for redirecting from netbeans.org. > >>> > >>> It's true that netbeans.org is the name that people know but this is > >> also the name that people connect to corporate-developed NetBeans. > >> Having netbeans.apache.org as primary website will send a message that > >> NetBeans is now an open community that welcomes participation by Apache > >> rules. If netbeans.org is left as marketing and consumer website, this > >> leaves the impression that we produce quality product in the same > >> "closed" process as before (although AFAIK it is not entirely true for > >> the nowadays NetBeans) and NetBeans don't need participation in its > >> development. > >>> > >>> I added the following to > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage. > action?pageId=69408938 > >> : > >>> > >>> * There are no technical obstacles to keeping all netbeans.org links > >> perfectly working by using redirection. > >>> * Single netbeans.apache.org will send clear message that NetBeans is > >> open community that welcomes development involvement. It is also > >> "cutting of ties" with the perception of the previous "corporate > >> model". > >>> * There will always be some confusion why there is such split. > >>> * OpenOffice.org is not a good example for splitting because the name > >> of the software is "OpenOffice.org" so they have to keep it. Also, OOo > >> is consumer software so it's not expected that users will participate > >> in its development. > >>> * Example of using the old domain is groovy-lang.org but they decided > >> to not use groovy.apache.org at all, so again it's single domain for > >> the project and no split. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Ognyan > > > > > > > > Herzliche Grüße - Best Regards, > > > > Michael Müller > > Brühl, Germany > > blog.mueller-bruehl.de > > it-rezension.de > > @muellermi > > > > > > Read my books > > "Web Development with Java and JSF": https://leanpub.com/jsf > > "Java Lambdas and Parallel Streams": http://www.apress.com/de/book/ > 9781484224861 > > "Visitors" a photographic image book: https://leanpub.com/visitors > >
