We should be able to have multiple discussions in parallel. It seems complicated to make the Platform another top-level project, but it could be an Apache NetBeans sub-project. In time it might move to a top-level project...
JDK 9 sounds great and it should be a priority of NetBeans the Java IDE, but there are also a lot of other things to look after. In Javascript land it looks to me like TypeScript is being used a lot and we don't have TypeScript support out of the box. There's also a lot of effort into Language Server Protocol which we should also support. Presumably it would be great for new languages but we could also use it for some of the current languages. The question is: who wants to *work* on all these tasks? We really need to get this code donation settled so some actual development becomes more visible. --emi On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > In the discussion re website (i.e., netbeans.org, netbeans.apache.org) and > other places, several people make the valid point about the Apache NetBeans > direction being the perfect opportunity to clarify the distinction between > the NetBeans application framework (i.e., the NetBeans Platform) deserving > its own Apache project status, with the NetBeans IDE tooling on top of it > being distinct in its own project. > > I.e., there's be netbeans.apache.org and, maybe, nbplatform.apache.org (or > a completely new name, as suggested, e.g., opendesktopplatform or something > like that). > > It would indeed be best to clarify that direction during incubation. > However our primary priority at this stage is to release NetBeans IDE 9 > together with JDK 9 and I would like to suggest that we therefore move this > particular discussion until after incubation. We need to, as soon as we get > the code from Oracle (right now, just the newly written code is being > audited, with a few folders that are required for building the IDE), work > on releasing NetBeans IDE 9, ideally as a top level project, i.e., there'd > need to be a minor 8.2.1 release first. > > Given that JDK 9 is set to be released during July, that doesn't give much > time. > > I'd like to suggest that once everything above has been done and is stable > and the project is working well, we reopen the discussion about splitting > off a separate Apache project focused on the NetBeans Platform. From my > side, it's hard enough keeping up with the discussions in just one project > at this stage, having to deal with two, and all related requirements for > two projects in incubation at the same time -- it would be too much. > > Insights from mentors and experienced people in this process would help > here too. > > Gj >
