We cannot use both the incubation start and the code donation date as landmarks.

Anyhow, I guess I made my point, I'll leave the soap box for other people too.

--emi


On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> To Apache, the people in the project, i.e., the community, is more
> important than the code. The project constitutes people plus code. The
> project as a whole has been in incubation, even without the code.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 at 16:39, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This makes sense to me if we view it as Oracle amending the NetBeans
>> donation proposal (https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>> ) and adding some more individuals from their side.
>>
>> Because, you know, what have we been incubating until now without any
>> source code?
>>
>> --emi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>> <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:59 AM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> ...Normally, a committer would have to prove themselves worthy of the
>> >> 'commit bit', but I think we can be more relaxed about this at the very
>> >> beginning?..
>> >
>> > I agree with that, and considering the donated code has just landed we
>> > are in that phase.
>> >
>> > As Daniel says, individual votes on the private@ list is the way to go.
>> >
>> > -Bertrand
>>

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