Yes, exactly. I totally agree. :-) It's been fantastic working with you all.

Gj

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Greg Trasuk <tras...@stratuscom.com> wrote:

>
> Well, one problem with the Incubator is this:  we all have opinions, but
> it’s sometimes hard to nail down policy.  The good news is, we’re all nice
> people and graciously change our opinions when presented with better
> information.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Trasuk
>
> > On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It seems not. That's what Ate said and then reversed on that.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Greg Trasuk <tras...@stratuscom.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Attila Kelemen
> >>> <attila.keleme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> ...If someone gets hired, I don't see the point of voting. I think a
> >> simple
> >>>> introduction would be enough...
> >>>
> >>> Huh, no that's not how Apache projects work! Being hired by some
> >>> organization does not give you the right to join one of our projects.
> >>>
> >>> We're discussing a special case here, dropping the "merit must be
> >>> demonstrated here" criterion for a few people because this podling is
> >>> just starting and expanding the list of initial committers still makes
> >>> sense at this stage.
> >>>
> >>> -Bertrand
> >>
> >> It may or may not apply in this case (IMO opinion Bertrand is quite
> >> correct that this is a special case), but I’m curious: Does someone
> >> actually need to be a committer to make these changes?  They could be
> done
> >> in a local Git repo, then pushed to the Apache repo by someone who “is”
> a
> >> committer.  In other words, could the new folks do the changes, and then
> >> someone like Geertjan do the push to the NetBeans repo at Apache?  The
> new
> >> people would of course very quickly demonstrate community involvement,
> and
> >> then the community would have plenty of evidence to grant committership.
> >> Maybe or maybe not PMC membership, but that’s up to the community.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Greg Trasuk
> >>
> >>
>
>

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