The Apache integration should be very prominent on the main page, it should link to all the relevant Apache pages and should ask for volunteers etc. The Apache wiki is ok, but most people know about netbeans.org.
In terms of my comments on "modern" and small things. I can't think of too many specific things off hand but what I would say is - I think a subset of the modules you can download should become core - the look at feel of netbeans puts me off a bit, I like the intellij dark look and feel (the font is much nicer to work with) - I don't like having to download and reinstall for each major version. I should just be able to use the already good updater to do this. - having moved over to gradle I find the gradle integration in netbeans not as good good as it's competitors. I think netbeans should divorce the build system from the project choice so I could (as a basic example) choose maven html5 or gradle html5 or maven basic java as a project choice. - android integration is important to me, would be good to have some standard support. Btw I like the fact netbeans has moved to Apache, netbeans has a lot going for it that is better than other ides. Hopefully the Apache integration will help it move quickly to a better place. Step one though is making it clearer to users of netbeans that the integration is happening and progress is being made to get a new release out. On 13 Oct 2017 09:00, "Geertjan Wielenga" <[email protected]> wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Peter Steele <[email protected]> wrote: > - netbeans.org is totally void of any Apache information, if you want more > people involved then communication should be updated there. > Where exactly would you like to see information on netbeans.org re Apache? I can see it already myself, it's been there for months -- but where would you like to see it, where are you looking and not finding the information about NetBeans being at Apache? > - some sort of date or regularly updated checklist to show what needs to be > done before the next release is sorely being missed > Here it is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ List+of+Modules+to+Review > - I am a big netbeans fan but moved over to the intellij community edition > because I didn't see oracle really investing much in making netbeans > "modern". What do you mean by that? Modern in terms of user interface? Modern in terms of features -- which features are needed to making NetBeans modern? > I'd love to move back because I think as a community driven > project it can bridge the difference in feature gaps that exist. I far > prefer core netbeans as an ide to intellij or eclipse but it's the many > small things that are missing that makes it hard to beat those other > platforms in terms of every day usability. > What are those small things? Providing a list of those small things, for others to implement, is precisely the very significant role that you can play in this project. Thanks, Gj
