Just asking, would Snap packaged NetBeans work on Gentoo as well?
On 05/25/2018 03:19 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2018 14:12:46 -0400
Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote:
What I like is deterministic builds, which neither Ant nor Maven
(both Apache projects) seem to hurry to add.
Based on deterministic builds you can have any kind of simple or
fancy build infrastructure to help you out.
That is kinda the basis of portage and Gentoo. What makes packaging on
Gentoo harder than other distros. It must build for all, in a variety
of scenarios. Not just on the packagers system to create a binary for
others. Packaging from source for others to install from source is
non-trivial for many things.
Though for Java these days with my work, its pretty trivial. Most all
my ebuilds are minimal.
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/tree/master/dev-java/
I am also looking to reduce eclass complexity. Lots of cruft to
remove from java-*.eclass eclasses... eclasses are where most logic
resides, to make ebuilds very minimal.
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/tree/master/eclass
Even for Netbeans
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/eclass/java-netbeans.eclass
That eclass makes the ebuilds pretty minimal, most dependency lists
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/nb-ide/netbeans-ant-browsetask/netbeans-ant-browsetask-9999.ebuild
IMHO it is a much simpler approach. Current with ant has like 1-2
xml files arch and build, plus properties and project.xml files.
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ant.browsetask
About to get even smaller as I drop DEPEND and RDEPEND moved into
eclasses as well. Such that I can change JDK in one location in eclass,
vs all ebuilds. To require a newer one across the board. Just the same
I can control the resulting jars via JAVA_RELEASE, so all jars are a
given target. Default to latest, but say under 10, could spit out 9, or
10 under 11 and so on.
I would like to have the server do some builds in background while I
edit my stuff and then my laptop build races to either download
prebuilt JARs or compile files on disk.
That is kind of my work flow on Gentoo via portage. I can build stuff
on my dev server, and then pull in pre-built binaries on my laptop. I
just cannot do it same time.
Portage does not look for binaries after a merge started. If it did,
then it would do more of what your after. Building on server, and then
pulling those in as part of a build on Laptop or other. The laptop
build would see binaries in its list the server made and not build
those, but could build other the server has not. Which then the server
could use as well. With a shared repository or binhost.
Hopefully portage next generation will address these issues. But its
mostly theoretical, not sure if those working on it have actually
started coding. I would not hold my breath there. Likely at least 1-2
years out if it happens. Maybe in less time, but its not really trivial.
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