> PS: I'd like to thank Emilian for doing the RC1 release: greatly
> appreciated!

Aw shucks! :-) You worked a whole lot on the javac part too! I actually keep 
meaning on getting into those modules too.

--emi

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On 30 May 2018 11:27 AM, Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Christian Lenz [email protected]
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > What does vc mean? Vote candidate? I know the „Problem“ behind the vote,
> > 
> > but if we make fixes or whatever, we have a new build, with a new build
> > 
> > number so the vote was for rc1-20180303 or the build number rc1-143. If the
> > 
> > vote fails, we make some stuff like fixes or whatever and we have a new
> > 
> > build so rc1-20180304 or rc1-144 or whatever. So you are still counting
> > 
> > numbers but rc is confusing and vc yeah could be but it is not my personal
> > 
> > favorite. It is not concrete enough. IMHO.
> 
> One thing to note is that we have released "Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1". The
> 
> second -rc1, or -vc1, or anything else is just a marker for various builds
> 
> and should only be seen by the developer community (and general@incubator),
> 
> the end users should not see that.
> 
> I don't mind the -vc1, -vc2, -vc3. An alternative might be "-build1",
> 
> "-build2" or "-b1", "-b2", etc. That would be close to what Christian is
> 
> proposing, and might also be closer to what non-Apache folks expect.
> 
> Jan
> 
> PS: I'd like to thank Emilian for doing the RC1 release: greatly
> 
> appreciated!
> 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga
> > 
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Mai 2018 08:55
> > 
> > An: [email protected]
> > 
> > Betreff: Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans 9.0
> > 
> > But please understand what this is about — when we go through the voting
> > 
> > process in Apache, the vote may fail, which has happened several times and
> > 
> > then we need to make fixes, produce a new release, and start the voting
> > 
> > process again.
> > 
> > The question is how to distinguish between these vote candidates, I propose
> > 
> > vc1, vc2, vc3, etc.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > Gj
> > 
> > On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Christian Lenz [email protected] wrote:
> > 
> > > Rc1-rc1 doesn’t make sense at all and is confusing. It still was
> > > 
> > > confusing
> > > 
> > > for People for beta-rc1. There is no beta-rc in the wild. Either we have
> > > 
> > > a
> > > 
> > > beta or RC but beta-rc? Wy we don’t use the build number for this or
> > > 
> > > build
> > > 
> > > date? When you download the nightly, there is a Long number in the
> > > 
> > > titlebar, I think it was the date like NetBeans 9.0-dev-20180101 or smth
> > > 
> > > like that. So why not using beta-20180303 and for RC too? So everyone
> > > 
> > > knows, that this rc is the latest build or is 3 days old.
> > > 
> > > My 2 cents
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > Von: Wade Chandler
> > > 
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Mai 2018 01:41
> > > 
> > > An: [email protected]
> > > 
> > > Betreff: Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans 9.0
> > > 
> > > I don’t like the rc1-rc1 bit. I think once one knows the reason it
> > > 
> > > exists,
> > > 
> > > they can understand it, but a release candidate for a release candidate,
> > > 
> > > is
> > > 
> > > just hard to say with a straight face IMO. I prefer the rc1-vc1 bit
> > > 
> > > myself.
> > > 
> > > Either way, I think folks will ask what it means, but at least the words
> > > 
> > > for the shorthand match exactly what it is; voting candidate for a
> > > 
> > > release
> > > 
> > > candidate versus RC for an RC. My couple pennies.
> > > 
> > > Wade
> > > 
> > > > On May 29, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Antonio [email protected] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 0
> > > > 
> > > > I don't see a problem with the "rc1-rc1", "rc1-rc2" approach.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > > Antonio
> > > > 
> > > > On 29/05/18 22:03, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > We’re going to continue to use the release90 branch.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The next — and hopefully last — release candidate before the final
> > > > > 
> > > > > release
> > > > 
> > > > > of NB 9.0 will be rc2.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We will need to vote on that release in the Apache PPMC and IPMC just
> > > > > 
> > > > > like
> > > > 
> > > > > all other releases.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There may be a need to vote multiple times, though we’re getting
> > > > > 
> > > > > better
> > > > > 
> > > > > at
> > > 
> > > > > putting releases together and so, just like for the rc1, we may only
> > > > > 
> > > > > need
> > > > 
> > > > > one round of votes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Anyway, I propose we use the shortened names rc2-vc1, rc2-vc2,
> > > > > 
> > > > > rc2-vc3,
> > > 
> > > > > i.e., ‘vc’ standing for ‘voting candidate’, these would be for an
> > > > > 
> > > > > assumed
> > > > 
> > > > > three rounds of Apache voting for the rc2 release, though we’ll
> > > > > 
> > > > > probably
> > > 
> > > > > only need rc2-vc1.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is also the structure suggested by our mentor Bertrand.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The rc2 will be the releae on which the NetCAT and beyond Community
> > > > > 
> > > > > Acceptance survey will be done.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Unless there are objections, I propose we use this structure. If you
> > > > > 
> > > > > object, you should provide a counter proposal.
> > > 
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