+1 for build1 build2 suffixes Sven
Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> schrieb am Mi., 30. Mai 2018, 12:15: > Sure, build1, etc, is also fine and ptobably clearer than vc1 etc. > > Gj > > On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Christian Lenz <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > What does vc mean? Vote candidate? I know the „Problem“ behind the > vote, > > > but if we make fixes or whatever, we have a new build, with a new build > > > number so the vote was for rc1-20180303 or the build number rc1-143. If > > the > > > vote fails, we make some stuff like fixes or whatever and we have a new > > > build so rc1-20180304 or rc1-144 or whatever. So you are still counting > > > numbers but rc is confusing and vc yeah could be but it is not my > > personal > > > favorite. It is not concrete enough. IMHO. > > > > > > > One thing to note is that we have released "Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1". The > > second -rc1, or -vc1, or anything else is just a marker for various > builds > > and should only be seen by the developer community (and general@incubator > > ), > > the end users should not see that. > > > > I don't mind the -vc1, -vc2, -vc3. An alternative might be "-build1", > > "-build2" or "-b1", "-b2", etc. That would be close to what Christian is > > proposing, and might also be closer to what non-Apache folks expect. > > > > Jan > > > > PS: I'd like to thank Emilian for doing the RC1 release: greatly > > appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Mai 2018 08:55 > > > An: [email protected] > > > Betreff: Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans > 9.0 > > > > > > But please understand what this is about — when we go through the > voting > > > process in Apache, the vote may fail, which has happened several times > > and > > > then we need to make fixes, produce a new release, and start the voting > > > process again. > > > > > > The question is how to distinguish between these vote candidates, I > > propose > > > vc1, vc2, vc3, etc. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Christian Lenz <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Rc1-rc1 doesn’t make sense at all and is confusing. It still was > > > confusing > > > > for People for beta-rc1. There is no beta-rc in the wild. Either we > > have > > > a > > > > beta or RC but beta-rc? Wy we don’t use the build number for this or > > > build > > > > date? When you download the nightly, there is a Long number in the > > > > titlebar, I think it was the date like NetBeans 9.0-dev-20180101 or > > smth > > > > like that. So why not using beta-20180303 and for RC too? So everyone > > > > knows, that this rc is the latest build or is 3 days old. > > > > > > > > My 2 cents > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > Von: Wade Chandler > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Mai 2018 01:41 > > > > An: [email protected] > > > > Betreff: Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans > > 9.0 > > > > > > > > I don’t like the rc1-rc1 bit. I think once one knows the reason it > > > exists, > > > > they can understand it, but a release candidate for a release > > candidate, > > > is > > > > just hard to say with a straight face IMO. I prefer the rc1-vc1 bit > > > myself. > > > > Either way, I think folks will ask what it means, but at least the > > words > > > > for the shorthand match exactly what it is; voting candidate for a > > > release > > > > candidate versus RC for an RC. My couple pennies. > > > > > > > > Wade > > > > > > > > > On May 29, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Antonio <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > I don't see a problem with the "rc1-rc1", "rc1-rc2" approach. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > > On 29/05/18 22:03, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > > >> We’re going to continue to use the release90 branch. > > > > >> The next — and hopefully last — release candidate before the final > > > > release > > > > >> of NB 9.0 will be rc2. > > > > >> We will need to vote on that release in the Apache PPMC and IPMC > > just > > > > like > > > > >> all other releases. > > > > >> There may be a need to vote multiple times, though we’re getting > > > better > > > > at > > > > >> putting releases together and so, just like for the rc1, we may > only > > > > need > > > > >> one round of votes. > > > > >> Anyway, I propose we use the shortened names rc2-vc1, rc2-vc2, > > > rc2-vc3, > > > > >> i.e., ‘vc’ standing for ‘voting candidate’, these would be for an > > > > assumed > > > > >> three rounds of Apache voting for the rc2 release, though we’ll > > > probably > > > > >> only need rc2-vc1. > > > > >> That is also the structure suggested by our mentor Bertrand. > > > > >> The rc2 will be the releae on which the NetCAT and beyond > Community > > > > >> Acceptance survey will be done. > > > > >> Unless there are objections, I propose we use this structure. 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