Sorry, I see there's a typo in my last response. To be very clear: netbeans.org is not disappearing. :-) Once the domain transitions to Apache, it will be rerouted to netbeans.apache.org so that whether netbeans.org or netbeans.apache.org is typed in the browser, you'll end up at netbeans.apache.org.
Thanks, Gj On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga < [email protected]> wrote: > > I don't think anyone is talking about "having a large, established web > presence just vanish in to the ether". > > Why would anyone anywhere suggest that? :-) The idea isn that netbeans.org > is going to be rerouted to netbeans.apache.org. > > Gj > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> [email protected] >> > wrote: >> >> > Yes - I think the only requirement at this point is that the >> > *ownership* of the domains is transferred to Apache, moving the >> > content is a separate concern. >> > >> >> Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older >> artifacts >> if they have, for example, GPL licensed parts within them? >> >> Can they do it from "netbeans.org" as some sort of "off shore shell >> company" kind of thing? (since it's "not Apache", yes I know I'm splitting >> hairs). >> >> The NetBeans Apache Git server contains GPL code (since, as I understand >> it, it has direct donations from the Oracle contribution that were >> committed before the license change). It's pedantic, but how does this >> licensed code stand under Apache policies. Is it allowed as a "legacy" >> component? Can the original netbeans.org content also be grandfathered in >> under a similar exemption? >> >> One of the issues, to me, is the impact of having a large, established web >> presence just vanish in to the ether, which is what would happen were >> netbeans.org to either just "go away" or be significantly refactored. The >> destruction of java.net was, and still is, a painful event to the Java >> community. >> >> If netbeans.org is to be significantly redone, is there a reason for it >> at >> all beyond a redirect to netbeans.apache.org? Are there other Apache >> projects that have any significant web presence outside of the *. >> apache.org >> system? >> >> There is a LOT of stuff and history at netbeans.org. It would be nice >> (IMHO) if it were to remain mostly intact, and even maintained, as an >> anchor within the NetBeans community, especially the old artifacts and >> releases but also all of the documentation and tutorials. I'd hate for it >> to have to be a project to port all of those pages to someplace else. >> >> But I just don't know how much of a brand presence NetBeans can have out >> side of Apache. Not sure what the governance guidelines are like for that. >> >> Regards, >> >> Will Hartung >> >
