While a .dmg is common, I actually think a .zip is simpler because: - it can easily be made on any platform - Safari will automatically unzip it leaving a simple application bundle in the user’s download folder
Scott > On Feb 2, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Michal Konrad Owsiak <mic...@owsiak.org> wrote: > > In my, personal view, DMG are much simpler for users. > > http://www.owsiak.org/netbeans-make-macos-installer-beautiful-again/ > > All you have to do is to drag and drop app. > > And you can drop it into your $HOME/Applications if you are not a super user. > > Michal > > On 2018/08/20 10:02:04, Carl Mosca <c...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excellent, thank > you, will take a look.> > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 1:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga> > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > > Here's info about the > installer-related code that is being audited for> > > donation:> > >> > > > http://wiki.netbeans.org/Launchers_Installers_NBI> > >> > > Gj> > >> > >> > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Carl Mosca <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > > > Got it, thank you.> > > >> > > > Carl> > > >> > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 > at 4:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga> > > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Note, everything that is part of NetBeans is free and open > source.> > > > >> > > > > What we're discussing here is whether (1) Oracle is > able to donate the> > > > code> > > > > to Apache, which means Oracle needs > to make sure the code really and> > > > truly> > > > > does belong to Oracle > and (2) whether Apache can release the code. In> > > > this> > > > > > particular case, the 2nd part of not applicable -- Apache will not be> > > > > > releasing the code that is used to build the installers, i.e., these> > > > are> > > > > build/compile-time relevant only, so the question of > distribution of> > > > these> > > > > files is irrelevant.> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > Gj> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Aug > 15, 2018 at 10:37 PM, Carl Mosca <ca...@gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > OK thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > My understanding is that in > general if there are IP issues, the> > > > original> > > > > > authors cannot > write the new/replacement code and those who may write> > > > the> > > > > > > new code should not look at the old code...but I am not an attorney.> > > :)> > > > > > >> > > > > > Carl> > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:35 > PM Geertjan Wielenga> > > > > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yes, it slipped through the cracks. Possibly there'll be > problems> > > > with> > > > > > > parts of the code because of IP, but I'll > be sure to keep this> > > thread> > > > > > > updated as we move along with > this now, i.e., it will (as much as> > > > > > possible> > > > > > > of it) > be part of the 3rd donation. It would really help if those> > > > > > > > knowledgeable in this area (there appear to be a lot, in this> > > thread)> > > > > > > would> > > > > > > look at that repo and see whether those scripts > and files and so on> > > > do> > > > > > the> > > > > > > job and are what's > needed, we're going to need to build up> > > expertise> > > > in> > > > > > > > this area together, sure, Oracle engineers will be available to> > > > > support> > > > > > and> > > > > > > answer questions and so on, but the more > we spread the knowledge> > > the> > > > > > > better.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gj> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Carl Mosca > <carljmo...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This is good news. Somehow I got the impression that this code> > > was> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > available due to IP and/or license issues.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you Gj.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug > 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga> > > > > > > > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, > Aug 15, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Will Hartung <> > > > > willhart...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > That said, looking at the git zip download, there's most> > > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > evidence> > > > > > > > > > of the ability to > create the Mac installers, which was kind> > > of> > > > my> > > > > > > > base> > > > > > > > > > puzzle. These existed before, where's the scripts to > build> > > it?> > > > > The> > > > > > > > actual> > > > > > > > > > build > scripts I can't find, I don't know if they are on/lost> > > > with> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Hudson server (I can't seem to connect to the one > linked at> > > the> > > > > > > nb.org> > > > > > > > > > page). All of the > hudson.* directories seem to relate to> > > > NetBeans> > > > > > > > hudson> > > > > > > > > > > support, not the build.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > That's a good point.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Installers were always created for NetBeans releases, > including> > > > DMG> > > > > > > > > installers.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looking in the hg repo at Oracle, this is where the related> > > > > scripts> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > > on are found:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/tip/installer> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > These have not yet been included in the donation process, since> > > > > we> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > been focusing on clusters (e.g., the > 'java' cluster, the 'php'> > > > > > cluster,> > > > > > > > > etc) and this > 'installer' folder falls outside the clusters.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > So, we will work on including the installer folder from the hg> > > > > repo> > > > > > > into> > > > > > > > > the donation that we're currently > working on, i.e., the 3rd> > > > > donation.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Apologies for not thinking about this earlier -- i.e., we've> > > had> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > solution all along and simply not yet included them > in the> > > > > donation.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can those > knowledgeable in this area take a look at the above> > > > > folder> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > includes everything needed AFAIK for > installers for Windows,> > > > Linux,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > Mac.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Gj> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Finally, the Apache infrastructure has a build bot > running> > > on a> > > > > Mac> > > > > > > > Mini.> > > > > > > > > > If the > original build scripts can be found, and the proper> > > > > > > permissions> > > > > > > > > > > acquired on the Mac Build bot, then, ideally, the previous> > > > > build> > > > > > can> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > ported to the > new infrastructure.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Ideally, this > shouldn't have to be a clean room reinvention> > > of> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > wheel> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > it were deigned to be > something that the group still wanted> > > to> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > supported.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But, I don't know.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Carl J. Mosca> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > > Carl J. Mosca> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Carl J. > Mosca> > > >> > >> > > > -- > www.owsiak.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
