Mike

You are certainly more than welcome to give the RM role a go and it is
very appreciated particularly on 0.x where it isn't as easy to put
attention/cycles.

Thanks
Joe

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Moser <[email protected]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I have started going through JIRA and identifying remaining issues against
> the 0.x branch to prepare for a release, and I've worked a couple of the
> JSON.org Cat-x license issues on that branch.
>
> I would like to volunteer to be release manager for a 0.7.3 release, if you
> will let me try.  ;-)
>
> -- Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Joe Skora <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the confusion regarding 1.0.0-BETA vs 1.0.0, my bad.
>>
>> As for stability, I don't mean build and test stability but real world
>> stability feedback that has led to various repository fixes including the
>> 1.x line transition to the schema based provenance and newly refactored
>> provenance repository.
>>
>> Again, apologies for the beta confusion.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Joe
>> >
>> > 1.0.0 was not a beta release.
>> >
>> > 1.0.0-beta was a beta release.
>> >
>> > The intent of the language was we support the old major line for one year
>> > once there is a major release.  It is of course imperative to respect
>> that
>> > folks cannot migrate as quickly as we would always like.  But this sort
>> of
>> > concern is precisely why we have such a document.
>> >
>> > I propose we clarify the language to clearly and simply state that once a
>> > new major release line release has occurred we will support the old
>> release
>> > line for up to one year.   This does not distinguish between minor or
>> > incremental.  There is already language for that.
>> >
>> > The stability comment is an unclear line to debate.  The act of voting
>> on a
>> > release is the point at which the community agrees and asserts the
>> fitness
>> > of a release.  We have no other open and clear mechanism for doing so.
>> >
>> > I think the question of whether an 0.8 can happen is no longer tied to
>> the
>> > recent portions of this thread.  It would need am RM and vote.
>> >
>> > As I mentioned the other day I'll go ahead and update the versioning
>> > guidance barring any objection or alternative proposal.  I'll wait
>> another
>> > day or so in case you would like to propose alternative language for the
>> > commitment we make as a community to our users and ourselves.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Joe
>> >
>> > On Feb 27, 2017 9:42 AM, "Joe Skora" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think there's a couple considerations related to continuing the 0.x
>> > line.
>> > >
>> > > First, as JoeW mentioned the Release Line Management page [1] says we
>> > > support a major release for one year, so we should plan to support
>> 0.7.x
>> > > for one year from its July 13, 2016 release date [2].
>> > >
>> > > Also, since we considered the 1.0.0 release a beta [3], the 0.x line
>> was
>> > > due any fixes, features, and enhancements through the release of 1.1.0
>> on
>> > > November 30th.  So the features and fixes through November 30th should
>> be
>> > > backported where possible and appropriate and after that any fixes
>> > relating
>> > > to security or data loss should be backported for the life of the 0.x
>> > line.
>> > >
>> > > Next, I agree with JoeW that we don't want old lines to be a burden on
>> > the
>> > > community, but I suggest we consider the user base and how practical it
>> > is
>> > > to expect them to upgrade.  From 0.x to 1.x is a major transition, so I
>> > > think we should give more time for that transition than we will might
>> for
>> > > 1.1 to 1.2.
>> > >
>> > > Finally, 0.x only recently became stable for my users in the last
>> couple
>> > of
>> > > months, based on the 0.7.1 release with patches added for stability and
>> > > corruption issues that is similar to Brandon's list of outstanding 0.x
>> > > tickets.  Since the non-beta 1.1.0 release is less than 3 months old
>> and
>> > > the transition from 0.x to 1.x is so significant, regardless of our
>> > release
>> > > policy I would propose we carry on the 0.x line on until 1.x has
>> settled
>> > > and been shown to be similarly stable.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Joe
>> > >
>> > > [1]
>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NIFI/Git+
>> > > Branching+and+Release+Line+Management
>> > > [2]
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/46678ade742887c624c14faf16d187
>> > > e039827121e35d08f468c3cbfe@%3Cdev.nifi.apache.org%3E
>> > > [3]
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/91a4c272ddf2e80ec2fefd95c2a1df
>> > > 6c37689f4290aba5bdb81afd35@%3Cusers.nifi.apache.org%3E
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Brandon DeVries <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Based on Jira, there are 20 tickets marked as fixed in 0.8.0 and
>> > nowhere
>> > > > else in the 0.x line[1].  Highlights from these include:
>> > > >
>> > > >    - NIFI-2890 - Provenance Repository corruption
>> > > >    - NIFI-2920 - Swapped FlowFiles are not removed from content repo
>> > > when a
>> > > >    queue is emptied.
>> > > >    - NIFI-3055 - StandardRecordWriter can throw
>> UTFDataFormatException
>> > > >    - NIFI-3424 - CLONE for 0.x - Unable to generate Provenance Event
>> > > >    because FlowFile UUID is not set
>> > > >    - NIFI-3230 - Get/Put JMS broken for simple ActiveMQ SSL URIs
>> > > >    - NIFI-3403 - NPE in InvokeHTTP
>> > > >    - NIFI-3362 - Update FlowConfiguration.xsd TimePeriod to match
>> > > >    FormatUtils
>> > > >    - NIFI-2861 - ControlRate should accept more than one flow file
>> per
>> > > >    execution
>> > > >    - NIFI-3350 - Reduce NiFi startup time by streamlining
>> documentation
>> > > >    extraction
>> > > >
>> > > > Are we willing to port all of the tickets from [1] to the 0.7 branch?
>> > Or
>> > > > rather, which of them would not make the cut?  There are a couple of
>> > > things
>> > > > on the list that seem like new features as opposed to pure bug
>> fixes...
>> > > > although I suppose the difference between a "bug fix" and an
>> > > "improvement"
>> > > > is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ultimately, as long as there's a release covering these issues
>> > > (everything
>> > > > except the NIFI-2991[2] stuff) I don't particularly care what it's
>> > > called.
>> > > > If there are issues left out and I need to run a SNAPSHOT of some
>> sort
>> > to
>> > > > get them, then a further 0.x release doesn't help me anyway, and I'll
>> > > > withdraw my suggestion.
>> > > >
>> > > > Brandon
>> > > >
>> > > > [1]
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%
>> > > > 3D%20NIFI%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.8.0%20and%
>> > > > 20fixVersion%20not%20in%20(0.2.1%2C%200.3.0%2C%200.4.0%2C0.
>> > > > 4.1%2C0.5.0%2C0.5.1%2C0.6.0%2C%200.6.1%2C0.7.0%2C%200.7.1%
>> > > > 2C%200.7.2%2C%200.7.3)%20ORDER%20BY%20due%20ASC%2C%
>> > 20priority%20DESC%2C%
>> > > > 20created%20ASC
>> > > >
>> > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-2991
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 7:49 PM Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > The 0.8 fixes for licensing remove a processor (gettwitter) at this
>> > > > point.
>> > > > > That I feel requires at least minor.  But avoiding that for now and
>> > > doing
>> > > > > the bug fix things and doing 073 seems legit.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Will wait and see if anyone else has a different interpretation on
>> > the
>> > > > > intent of our one year version guidance and then update the wiki if
>> > > > appears
>> > > > > we have consensus.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > Joe
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "Andy LoPresto" <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Especially as nothing that would be going into the 0.x release
>> is a
>> > > > major
>> > > > > > feature or changes compatibility (from my understanding), I would
>> > +1
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > 0.7.3 suggestion.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Andy LoPresto
>> > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > *[email protected] <[email protected]>*
>> > > > > > PGP Fingerprint: 70EC B3E5 98A6 5A3F D3C4  BACE 3C6E F65B 2F7D
>> EF69
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Tony Kurc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I think it is probably worth clarifying the intent of the support
>> > > > > language.
>> > > > > > I believe the intent was to support 0.x for a year after 1.x was
>> > > > > released.
>> > > > > > That was how I initially read the document you mentioned. But
>> > after a
>> > > > > > re-read, I'd echo your concerns about dragging old major lines
>> > along.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Brandon,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > My concern is the language used when we published this "We
>> support
>> > > the
>> > > > > > newest major release line (0.x, 1.x) and any previous major
>> release
>> > > > > > lines for up to one year since the last minor release (0.6.x,
>> > 1.5.y)
>> > > > > > in that line" within this document [1].
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If I read that now it seems like we're saying "if we make a minor
>> > > > > > release we're going to support that for up to a year" and so each
>> > > time
>> > > > > > we create a new minor line on a given major line it means we are
>> > > > > > resetting the clock.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I do not believe we should give old major lines, such as 0.x, the
>> > > > > > ability to drag on the community indefinitely as that reads.  I
>> > > > > > believe it should be that we support a given major release line
>> for
>> > > up
>> > > > > > to one year one after a new major release line is provided.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > So would like to hear peoples thoughts on that.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If an 0.8 release is to occur the items called out are things
>> which
>> > > > > > impact licensing only (specifically the no longer allowed cat-x
>> > json
>> > > > > > library). I would be far more comfortable with 0.7.3 release
>> which
>> > > > > > would be fixing whatever bugs have been addressed.  That avoids
>> the
>> > > > > > concern I noted above for this case though i'd still like us to
>> > > > > > clarify that language/intent anyway.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > Joe
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Brandon DeVries <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Team,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The only unresolved tickets against the 0.8.0 release[1] are for
>> > the
>> > > > > > removal of code...  With that in mind, does anyone object to
>> trying
>> > > to
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > push
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > for this (possibly final) 0.x release?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Brandon
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > [1]
>> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 3D%20NIFI%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.8.0%20AND%
>> > 20resolution%20%3D%
>> > > > > > 20Unresolved%20ORDER%20BY%20due%20ASC%2C%20priority%
>> > > > > > 20DESC%2C%20created%20ASC
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

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