Got it, for now I'm just going to work on implementing a Kerberos solution that 
either allows you to configure a keytab and principal or pulls from the current 
subject if your already logged in.

I created NIFI-6378 and NIFIREG-281. Can one of you assign the registry one to 
me as I'm not a contributor there yet.

Thanks
Shawn

On 6/13/19, 2:03 PM, "Bryan Bende" <[email protected]> wrote:

    It would be a little bit weird because you'd still need the client
    cert for the initial request to get the JWT, so then in that case why
    not just keep using the client cert.
    
    Registry does things a little bit different than NiFi and has a few
    variations of the token end-point:
    
    /access/token/login (looks for credentials using basic auth)
    /access/token/kerberos (same as NiFi)
    /access/token/identity-provider (passes request to the configured
    identity provider)
    /access/token (tries all identity providers in order, the first of
    which is X509 identity provider)
    
    So if you sent a client cert to the last one, it would do what you are
    suggesting.
    
    On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 2:55 PM Andy LoPresto <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > No, client cert authentication bypasses the JWT behavior completely. 
Because a client cert is automatically sent on every request, it makes no sense 
to delegate the credential to a token in that case.
    >
    > Andy LoPresto
    > [email protected]
    > [email protected]
    > PGP Fingerprint: 70EC B3E5 98A6 5A3F D3C4  BACE 3C6E F65B 2F7D EF69
    >
    > > On Jun 13, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Shawn Weeks <[email protected]> 
wrote:
    > >
    > > Completely agree on username and password but I'll probably still do 
something somewhat generic around access tokens vs 2 way ssl as in the future 
there might be something else. On a related note is it possible to get a JWT 
with 2 way ssl? If so we could use the same auth method for everything.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Shawn
    > >
    > > On 6/13/19, 1:36 PM, "Bryan Bende" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >    Ah thanks for pointing that out, I completely forgot that apparently 
I
    > >    was thinking ahead in the JerseyNiFiClient of how we could support
    > >    tokens :)
    > >
    > >    You would need to make the same changes in the
    > >    JerseyNiFiRegistryClient, and then build a new toolkit based on a new
    > >    version of nifi-registry-client.
    > >
    > >    Also, you are correct that we could support username/password, but I
    > >    think Kerberos is much better from a security perspective since you
    > >    don't really need to give your credentials to the CLI. With
    > >    username/password, you would either need to add those properties to
    > >    the .props files for the CLI, which then gets into encrypting the
    > >    password, or you need to provide them on a command as arguments which
    > >    again gets into whether the password is in plain text or not.
    > >
    > >    On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 2:28 PM Shawn Weeks 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Got it, I've been trying to read some of this on my phone and missed 
something. Currently it looks like the NiFi Client JerseyNiFiClient.java was 
setup to support token(JWT) based requests but from what I can tell those 
methods are never called anywhere. NiFi Registry Client only implemented the 
implicit security and proxied entity methods.
    > >>
    > >> It looks like I should be able to lookup the auth token and add it to 
the Jersey WebTarget Headers in the two clients so it would be there on every 
request. I'll have to do some testing but that might not require too many 
changes. In theory it could also support username/password auth as well doing 
it the same way.
    > >>
    > >> 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29056051/adding-authorization-header-to-jersey-sse-client-request
    > >>
    > >> Thanks
    > >> Shawn
    > >>
    > >> On 6/13/19, 1:04 PM, "Bryan Bende" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>    I'm not sure if I confused things... the clients that I mentioned 
are
    > >>    wrappers for the REST API implemented with Jersey client, so the CLI
    > >>    does exclusively use the REST API.
    > >>
    > >>    I was just drawing attention to the clients to say that part of the
    > >>    work is outside of the CLI in nifi-registry-client to allow it to
    > >>    support kerberos auth.
    > >>
    > >>    On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 1:54 PM Shawn Weeks 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>> Ok, I was thinking the CLI used the Rest API exclusively and that's 
what I was missing. Unfortunately I don't have the option to use self-signed 
certificate due to organizational security policies and we don't have a way to 
get SSL Certificates issued to individuals only servers.
    > >>>
    > >>> Thanks
    > >>> Shawn
    > >>>
    > >>> On 6/13/19, 12:30 PM, "Bryan Bende" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>    Just to further elaborate, within the CLI there are commands that 
work
    > >>>    against registry and commands that work against NiFi. For registry
    > >>>    commands, they use the Java client that is provided by registry 
[1].
    > >>>    For NiFi commands, there is mini client developed as need with in 
the
    > >>>    CLI [2].
    > >>>
    > >>>    None of these client calls currently have any concept of a 
JWT/token.
    > >>>
    > >>>    In order to do the kerberos auth correctly across both systems, I
    > >>>    think both of these clients would need to be updated to support a
    > >>>    method that called the /access/kerberos end point to obtain a 
token,
    > >>>    and then also provide a way to pass back that token on future
    > >>>    requests. It would likely be the CLI's job to store that token
    > >>>    somewhere (in memory for interactive shell, or on filesystem for
    > >>>    individual executions) and pass it back on each request. In order 
to
    > >>>    call the /access/kerberos end-point there also needs to be code in 
the
    > >>>    client that handles the negotiation to provide the kerberos
    > >>>    credentials that are present from having done a kinit.
    > >>>
    > >>>    Long story short, Andy's first suggest would be a much easier 
option
    > >>>    with no code changes.
    > >>>
    > >>>    [1] 
https://github.com/apache/nifi-registry/tree/master/nifi-registry-core/nifi-registry-client
    > >>>    [2] 
https://github.com/apache/nifi/tree/master/nifi-toolkit/nifi-toolkit-cli/src/main/java/org/apache/nifi/toolkit/cli/impl/client
    > >>>
    > >>>    On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Andy LoPresto 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> You’ll probably have to write (minimal) code to expose the 
ClientBuilder constructor/factory methods to the part that parses command-line 
arguments.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Andy LoPresto
    > >>>> [email protected]
    > >>>> [email protected]
    > >>>> PGP Fingerprint: 70EC B3E5 98A6 5A3F D3C4  BACE 3C6E F65B 2F7D EF69
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> On Jun 13, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Shawn Weeks 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Is there a way to pass 2 currently? Because you can get the token 
via curl like I’m currently doing?
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Thanks
    > >>>>> Shawn
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> On Jun 13, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Andy LoPresto <[email protected]> 
wrote:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> I see a couple choices here:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> 1. Use the CA to generate and sign a new certificate for 
deployments. This certificate would not be as sensitive as the server 
certificate, as you can put stricter permissions on that identity within the 
NiFi access controls, and the cert would be issued for a DN that cannot be used 
to impersonate the server itself. Use this certificate to authenticate for 
deployment activities.
    > >>>>>> 2. Manually extract the user’s JWT from the Developer Tools in 
your browser and pass that into the CLI. This token expires regularly, so you 
will need to continually update it.
    > >>>>>> 3. Build the Kerberos implementation of the authentication aspects 
of the CLI toolkit.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Andy LoPresto
    > >>>>>> [email protected]
    > >>>>>> [email protected]
    > >>>>>> PGP Fingerprint: 70EC B3E5 98A6 5A3F D3C4  BACE 3C6E F65B 2F7D EF69
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> On Jun 13, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Shawn Weeks 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> For our organization the server certificate is considered 
sensitive and not available to the users who need to deploy to NiFi. Actual 
authentication to NiFi is handled through Knox and our SSO Service so the end 
user never deals with SSL or has access to a certificate. Originally I started 
down the path of writing a bunch of tools based on NiPyAPI to handle 
deployments but since the CLI already does that I was hoping to save some work. 
Currently we do several other things via rest using the Kerberos Token.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> As I looked through the tool kit CLI I was seeing that auth token 
being passed into all the rest calls so I was hoping I could hijack wherever 
that was being generated via 2way ssl and add an option to call Kerberos 
instead to get the token. When I say token I mean the auth bearer token that 
you can get from a post request to /access/kerberos in NiFi and 
/access/token/Kerberos in NiFi registry.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> Thanks
    > >>>>>>> Shawn
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> On 6/12/19, 12:06 PM, "Bryan Bende" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> I meant to say that you obviously could generate certs for CLI 
users, but I
    > >>>>>>> was just mentioning an alternative where you can proxy an 
identity.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> Right now the CLI never obtains a token because it is all cert 
based.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bryan Bende <[email protected]> 
wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> Right now the idea is that whoever is running the CLI would have 
access to
    > >>>>>>>> a NiFi server certificate and then you can proxy any user you 
want. There
    > >>>>>>>> should be examples of this in the readme or toolkit guide.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> Supporting Kerberos auth was something I wanted to do, but it’s 
definitely
    > >>>>>>>> not a trivial effort.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:57 PM Andy LoPresto 
<[email protected]>
    > >>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> Shawn,
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> I’m not sure I understand your question.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> I am in the process of refactoring the TLS Toolkit to integrate 
with
    > >>>>>>>>> public certificate authorities, so in the near future it will 
be easier to
    > >>>>>>>>> use certificates signed by external authorities rather than 
self-signed.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> My understanding is that you are talking about the CLI Toolkit 
rather
    > >>>>>>>>> than the TLS Toolkit, but your reference to “token” was 
ambiguous, so I’m
    > >>>>>>>>> going to proceed with the understanding that you are referring 
to the JWT
    > >>>>>>>>> token used to identify an authenticated user when communicating 
with the
    > >>>>>>>>> NiFi API.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> You may want to look at JerseyNiFiClient [1], which has methods 
for
    > >>>>>>>>> getting various clients given an authentication token.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> You can create the token via the POST /access/kerberos API [2].
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> [1]
    > >>>>>>>>> 
https://github.com/apache/nifi/blob/master/nifi-toolkit/nifi-toolkit-cli/src/main/java/org/apache/nifi/toolkit/cli/impl/client/nifi/impl/JerseyNiFiClient.java#L163
    > >>>>>>>>> <
    > >>>>>>>>> 
https://github.com/apache/nifi/blob/master/nifi-toolkit/nifi-toolkit-cli/src/main/java/org/apache/nifi/toolkit/cli/impl/client/nifi/impl/JerseyNiFiClient.java#L163
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> [2] https://nifi.apache.org/docs/nifi-docs/rest-api/index.html <
    > >>>>>>>>> https://nifi.apache.org/docs/nifi-docs/rest-api/index.html>
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> Andy LoPresto
    > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]
    > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]
    > >>>>>>>>> PGP Fingerprint: 70EC B3E5 98A6 5A3F D3C4  BACE 3C6E F65B 2F7D 
EF69
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Shawn Weeks 
<[email protected]>
    > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>> I work in an environment reluctant to create self signed ssl
    > >>>>>>>>> certificates and I’m looking at the feasibility of having the 
toolkit cli
    > >>>>>>>>> authenticate via Kerberos. I was expecting it to be as simple 
as adding
    > >>>>>>>>> another way to get the authentication token but I’m having 
trouble figuring
    > >>>>>>>>> out exactly when the token is created. I see lots of references 
to it after
    > >>>>>>>>> it’s been created.
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
    > >>>>>>>>>> Shawn
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> --
    > >>>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> --
    > >>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
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