Chris,

Yeah that would be very helpful.  But do you have any idea how that
might be achieved in this environment?

Thanks

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:33 AM Chris Sampson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Could an approach of building only the updated parts of the repo help to
> reduce build times?
>
> For example, changes to the classes under the AWS bundle (and only that
> bundle) would only need those classes to be built and tested.
>
> Where such an approach gets a bit more complex is interdependence between
> parts of the repo. For example, if nifi-api is updated, should all classes
> be built and tested?
>
> As part of a release, the entire repo could then be built and tested.
>
> This approach might help if the majority of repo changes are to individual
> NARs rather than wider ranging. I'm also assuming this would be possible
> via GitHub Actions (I have no experience of them, but have implemented this
> kind of approach in a Drone.io mono-repo previously).
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Sampson
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, 17:16 David Handermann, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > This background is very helpful to keep in mind when evaluating new and
> > updated unit tests.  There are definitely some expensive tests that could
> > be streamlined, but introducing a separate version lifecycle for framework
> > and extensions seems like it is becoming more necessary.  Moving to a Java
> > 11 baseline would also reduce the need to build on multiple versions, but
> > based on other discussions, it sounds like that is not currently scheduled.
> >
> > I have noticed that Windows builds can run for a longer period of time, is
> > there a reason that the Windows workflow definition does not have the same
> > timeout setting as the Linux and macOS builds?  Introducing one would at
> > least kill off problematic Windows builds.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David Handermann
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:08 AM Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for bringing this up. The most clear next step I can envision
> > > at this point is that we break up our core framework from our
> > > extensions.  Not obvious how best to break this up but we need to.
> > > The build times are insane.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 7:57 AM Otto Fowler <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As you can probably imagine, it takes a lot of resources in order to CI
> > > for all the Apache projects.  Periodically this becomes an issue, as the
> > > donated resources from cloud CI providers ( Travis and now GitHub
> > Actions )
> > > end up queuing and delaying builds across Apache projects because of
> > larger
> > > projects and their requirements.
> > > >
> > > > The discussions center around a few common themes:
> > > >
> > > > - the CI requirements of large complex projects dominate the Apache
> > Queue
> > > > - how those projects can supplement their builds in a way acceptable to
> > > ASF INFRA
> > > > - how those projects can have per project metering such that a project
> > > can pay for hours over the ’norm’
> > > > - how to optimize projects
> > > >
> > > > This issue is currently being discussed again on the @builds apache
> > > list.  I’m sending this over to the Nifi Dev community because Nifi
> > itself
> > > has been mentioned as one of the top users of GitHub action resources by
> > > some measure.   Many of the other projects are actively taking measures
> > to
> > > decrease or optimize their usage, and we should probably think about how
> > we
> > > can do so as well.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the *current* thread:
> > > >
> > >
> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-builds/202104.mbox/%3cCAMFhwAbyoDPM8V7bt6=40m++GTdbXK64Q5LjwD=cvrghs7d...@mail.gmail.com%3e
> > > <
> > >
> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-builds/202104.mbox/%3CCAMFhwAbyoDPM8V7bt6=40m++GTdbXK64Q5LjwD=cvrghs7d...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is the message where 13 projects are listed
> > > >
> > >
> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-builds/202104.mbox/%[email protected]%3e
> > > <
> > >
> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-builds/202104.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are many other threads regarding GitHub Action limits and
> > > resources if you start scrolling back through the archives.
> > > >
> > > > I’m posting this to hopefully kick off some discussions.
> > >
> >

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