Hi Alan, On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, at 10:12, Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > Hi Matias, > > I think according to Apache rules anyone can call for vote.
Ok. I would imagine that for a vote to have any purpose there still needs to be some discussion first. Or is it ok to have the discussion on the vote thread? My proposal to vote on would be to: - confirm interest over this change by the community - discuss potential roadmap for completing the work on the cmake branch and integration of the branch into master - identify community members willing to support the effort and organize in a table who would test on which platform and which target to ensure sufficient coverage > I'm working in the ESP32(C3, S2) cmake port and probably will need your > review. Sure, thanks. I know you volunteered and I appreciate it. But I think we need larger commitment from other people as well due to the large number of arch/boards/platforms supported. > Moving from Makefile to CMake is not a simple task and it is prone for > failure, OpenOCD tried it around 2008 or so and it didn't get to much > traction, so the end up with Makefiles until now. The current state of the migration is quite usable and I focused on critical aspects such as the protected build, ELF modules, etc. This has helped me identify the tricky bits. The remaining work should not be that hard as it is mostly covering new platforms and most of the ground work is laid out. > I think it is important to reinforce the benefit we will get from > CMake, otherwise people will still with Makefile, because it is a > "known devil". This was already done on the original GitHub issue (which was linked at the top of the thread): https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx/issues/3455 Best, Matias > > BR, > > Alan > > On 6/9/21, Matias N. <mat...@imap.cc <mailto:matias%40imap.cc>> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > this thread has received little engagement from the community > > in general, for a change with such impact on daily use of NuttX > > for everyone. > > > > While there was positive feedback on GH and a few people have > > expressed more interest, not much has really happened. Meanwhile, > > the backlog of changes that would need to be backported continues > > to increase. > > > > At the same time, I see many PRs addressing subtle issues with > > current build system, which are mostly already solved with the migration > > to CMake. So there's continued effort in maintaining the current system > > which could be in part dedicated to the migration to a better system. > > > > I have offered technical guidance on testing and extending to other > > platforms and also to add base support for other arch's so that the focus > > can be put mostly at the board level and on test and validation on > > different > > platforms and target hardware. However, after having worked on this > > for more than a month I feel this is not really picking up the interest it > > requires for proper adoption by the community. > > > > Maybe the proper approach would be to call on a vote (*) > > for this feature to have explicit support from the community and > > ensure involvement from others than me to move forward. > > Otherwise, or if the vote does not pass, I will not be pushing forward with > > this. > > > > (*) As a commiter (non-PPMC member), I'm not sure if I can formally call on > > a vote and what the exact procedure is, but maybe other PPMC member > > can do so. > > > > Best, > > Matias > > > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, at 15:05, Nathan Hartman wrote: > >> I am interested and I'll try to help with boards I can test. It will take > >> a > >> few days to get around to it because this has been a busy month, but I'm > >> catching up. > >> > >> Cheers > >> Nathan > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 11:25 AM Alan Carvalho de Assis <acas...@gmail.com > >> <mailto:acassis%40gmail.com> > >> <mailto:acassis%40gmail.com>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I think we can divide the effort to port all the boards to the new > >> > CMake. > >> > > >> > I can start take care of ESP32, ESP32-C3 and ESP32-S2. > >> > > >> > Let see if we get more people involved in this effort. > >> > > >> > BR, > >> > > >> > Alan > >> > > >> > On 6/1/21, Matias N. <mat...@imap.cc <mailto:matias%40imap.cc> > >> > <mailto:matias%40imap.cc>> wrote: > >> > > Hi, > >> > > just wanted to add that until this is ready, the gap between master > >> > > and > >> > the > >> > > branch > >> > > widens with every merged PR and this increases the backporting > >> > > effort. > >> > > I'm willing to do most of the remaining work but as I mentioned I > >> > > cannot > >> > > possibly test everything so > >> > > help is needed. > >> > > I'd really like your feedback on this before I continue and ensure > >> > > the > >> > > effort will not go to waste. > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > Matias > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, May 29, 2021, at 14:06, Matias N. wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> for anyone not following the relevant PR, please have a look at the > >> > >> current state here: > >> > >> > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx/pull/3704 > >> > >> > >> > >> This is now at a point where it can be tested by others. It would be > >> > very > >> > >> good to get some > >> > >> help testing what I got so far (sim and stm32f4discovery, both on > >> > >> Linux > >> > >> and mac), by running > >> > >> examples and test. There are some brief instructions at the end of > >> > >> the > >> > PR > >> > >> description for building. > >> > >> > >> > >> Other than that, I can continue porting other arch's and boards with > >> > >> the > >> > >> help of CI but it would be > >> > >> best if others with more boards could help testing (and ideally with > >> > some > >> > >> PRs, as the hard part > >> > >> is mostly done) those as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> Also, note that this is a PR against a branch so we could eventually > >> > merge > >> > >> it before adding support > >> > >> for other arch/boards. And finally, I will provide documentation to > >> > >> the > >> > >> new build system in a separate > >> > >> PR at some point, which I hope will ease the transition and help > >> > >> reviewing. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Matias > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021, at 18:43, Xiang Xiao wrote: > >> > >>> A new issue is opened recently to address this topic: > >> > >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx/issues/3455 > >> > >>> This proposal has the depth of the impact in our daily working, so > >> > >>> it's > >> > >>> very important to get the feedback from the community before the > >> > >>> real > >> > >>> action is taken. > >> > >>> If you have any concern or suggestion, please reply to this email. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks > >> > >>> Xiang > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
