In response to Nathan's message on the previous thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13877.html

> I would like to point out that if we have to wait 72 hours, then hold a
> vote lasting 72 more hours, that's 6 days total. Not necessarily the end
of
> the world but could be significant if there's other work in the pipeline
> that depends on the stuck PR.

Honestly, I think that's fine. If a reviewer has left a change request it
was likely for good reason. I think 72 hours to respond to questions about
their request/new changes is a reasonable time frame, although I'd be
willing to hear other perspectives. I think a 6 day block on a PR with
requested changes is reasonable, there shouldn't be a rush to merge PRs
faster than that if there isn't a consensus of approvals. Critical PRs can
still be merged in less than 6 days provided a reviewer doesn't find issue
with them.

That being said, I think votes are the ultimate ruler on Apache projects,
so really #2 is more of a guideline. If someone _really_ thinks the PR
needs to be merged ASAP, they can run a vote immediately to request that an
exception to #2 be made and the review dismissed immediately. I don't know
why that would be necessary, but it would only cause a 3-day delay.

I believe we still have the rule of no self-merging commits, even if you
received enough approvals. This new proposal is in the same spirit of
community approval & concurrence. If someone who was trusted enough by the
project to be a committer has left a binding "request changes" review, that
feedback should be respected and not dismissed until the reviewer has
agreed.

Best,
Matteo

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 1:11 PM Matteo Golin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am proposing a vote for a new rule surrounding PR reviews for the NuttX
> project. I have started this discussion thread to review the proposal
> first.
>
> Below is my original message:
>
> As you might know, it is possible to "request changes" on GitHub when
> reviewing
> a PR. If changes are requested, it is not possible for the PR to be merged
> until
> the reviewer who has requested changes dismisses their request or approves
> the
> PR.
>
> However, an unfortunate ability on GitHub is that anyone with write access
> (or
> higher) privileges on the repository can dismiss a reviewer's change
> request.
> Unfortunately, this has been used at least twice recently to merge a PR for
> which reviewers requested changes, which is quite frustrating for the
> reviewer(s) and does not respect their feedback. I don't think this
> ability fits
> with NuttX's ideals of ensuring quality code, and I also think it
> alienates the
> reviewers (we have very few of them, so that is bad).
>
> My proposal for the rule is as follows:
>
> 1. A change-request made by a reviewer can only be "self-dismissed". This
> indicates the reviewer has been satisfied by the changes made or they have
> been
> convinced that their change request is not necessary.
>
> 2. If the reviewer is not responsive due to absence (minimum 72 hours), or
> other
> reviewers of the PR believe that the reviewer's concern is invalid, a VOTE
> can
> be made on the mailing list to overturn the change request. If the VOTE
> passes,
> this is the only scenario where the request can be dismissed by someone
> else.
>
> I have included item 2 as a contingency, although I don't expect this
> scenario
> to happen often if at all. I suggest that if the vote passes, this rule be
> included in the contributing guidelines (if there are better locations,
> please
> suggest them).
>
> I would also just take this opportunity to say: if you have comments
> regarding
> changes to a PR, use a change request! The NuttX reviewers are often too
> nice
> and only leave comments, or approve a PR but include some feedback in the
> approval message. Using a change-request prevents the PR from getting
> accidentally merged while the changes are pending, and that keeps the
> quality
> higher :)
>
> Best,
> Matteo
>
>

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