Hi Felipe, Hosting the repository like zephyr style would just mean moving it under nuttx but leaving the merge rights to people from espressif. They understand how this repository is updated and what the work is when changes are applied. I wouldn't mind this at all, but I don't see any advantages. In zephyr the repo is there to ensure that whatever version of zephyr is checked-out it has the correct library, in NuttX this is achieved in a different way with less work by updating the commit-sha of the repository.
Please read the statement from espressif carefully: when the comunity would decide (according to community rules) that the esp_hal_3rdparty is to be moved under nuttx (and possibly the merging rights would be changed) espressif will evaluate whether contribution is feasible. This could lead to the decision that contribution is no longer feasible, leaving NuttX behind with less support. Up to now espressif has reviewing and creating PR's for NuttX because they understand how the interaction with esp_hal_3rdparty is happening, expecting espressif to do the same for a library that is handled by NuttX could be wishfull thinking. I would conclude with the following questions: 1. What are the advantages and consequences of changing the location? 2. What is the goal of changing the location: closer to NuttX and it's style? 3. Who will be responsible? 4. Who will write the code? 5. Who will maintain the code? 6. Who will ensure that newer devices are supported? If any of these questions has an unclear answer it is better too leave it as is and embrace the work that espressif is doing for NuttX (both in PR and publicity on their blog). Kind regards, Jehudi Op vr 14 aug 2026 om 14:56 schreef Felipe Moura Oliveira <[email protected]>: > > Hi Laczen, > > Following our last discussion, and given Espressif's statement that they > will conform to community rules and are waiting for the community to decide > first, are you now more comfortable with hosting the repository like Zephyr > style? > > Is anyone else concerned about this? > > Em sex., 14 de ago. de 2026 às 09:01, Tiago Medicci Serrano < > [email protected]> escreveu: > > > Hi Felipe, > > > > It may have been lost in this huge thread, but the official position I have > > is the one that I already sent to the list: > > > > 1) Espressif always said it would conform to community rules; hence, why we > > > have been absent. The community must decide first, and then we can see > > > whether the contribution is feasible. > > > 2) We do not block contributions, and we never saw ourselves as 'owning' > > > Espressif support in NuttX. We do have opinions, and we do try to > > optimize, > > > and we do listen to others. We actually expect more people willing to > > help. > > > 3) So far, the discussed options were: > > > > > > - > > > > Total AI rewrite (I assume at the register level). > > > > - > > > > Fork, taking it from there - maybe going Zephyr style. > > > > - > > > > Replacing HAL slowly, piece by piece. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Em qua., 12 de ago. de 2026 às 08:10, Felipe Moura Oliveira < > > [email protected]> escreveu: > > > > > Hi Tiago, > > > > > > Do you have any feedback from the Espressif team regarding this thread? > > > Could you check with your team if we could maintain the esp-hal under the > > > NuttX GitHub organization? This way, we would be able to add more > > reviewers > > > to help with the process. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Em sáb., 8 de ago. de 2026 às 08:33, Alan C. Assis <[email protected]> > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > Exactly! > > > > > > > > And for Zephyr the HAL for ESP32 chips already existed before Espressif > > > > started contributing to it. > > > > > > > > NuttX also had a native port before Espressif started contributing. > > > > > > > > When ESP32 chip was created, some engineers from Espressif was willing > > to > > > > use NuttX instead of FreeRTOS and sent some boards to Greg. He did the > > > > basic port, but because their internal FreeRTOS port was more advanced, > > > > they decided to keep using it. > > > > > > > > BR, > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 8, 2026, Laczen JMS <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Felipe, > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, just like your PR was committed (merged) into > > esphal_3rdparty. > > > > The > > > > > hal_espressif for zephyr is maintained by espressif. The only > > > difference > > > > > between NuttX and zephyr is where it is located, not who maintains > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jehudi > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2026, 09:31 Felipe Moura Oliveira < > > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laczen, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you might be confusing the author with the committer. > > > > > > > > > > > > The change was indeed committed by someone from Espressif who has > > > write > > > > > > access to the repository, but the actual author of the code was an > > > > > external > > > > > > contributor using a @gmail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *--Felipe Moura de Oliveira* > > > > > > Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/felipe-oliveira-75a651a0> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2026 at 02:31 Laczen JMS <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That person is from espressif, and the commit of your previous > > > > > reference > > > > > > > was also done by someone from espressif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jehudi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2026, 22:51 Alan C. Assis <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, so this one the also the maintainer of something else and > > > this > > > > is > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > is has a commit there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/hal_espressif/commit/ > > > > > 34795d7847426426c618002789af2667cc262f6d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many commits from people outside Espressif, what you > > > said > > > > > is > > > > > > > (to > > > > > > > > avoid saying I'm accusing you) "not accurate". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BR, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *--Felipe Moura de Oliveira* > > > Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/felipe-oliveira-75a651a0> > > > > > > > > -- > > *--Felipe Moura de Oliveira* > Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/felipe-oliveira-75a651a0>
