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On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 1:13 PM chao an <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> First, I need to clarify an important point: Xiaomi's zblue approach is
> completely different from what I submitted in PR #20686
> https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20686. Xiaomi's version keeps
> Zephyr's
> original headers and coding style largely intact, whereas my libs/zblue
> submission is fully adapted for NuttX — headers restructured to
> include/nuttx/net/bluetooth/, OS adaptation layer integrated, and the
> entire tree reorganized to fit NuttX's build system. They are not the same
> technical approach.
>
> I've already laid out the advantages of having the protocol stack in-tree
> in PR #20686 — build integration, API cohesion, OS-level optimization
> opportunities, and avoiding the friction of out-of-tree maintenance.
> Reading your latest reply, I have to be honest: I'm disappointed, because
> it feels like you haven't really engaged with what I was saying there.
>
> Regarding security — you keep raising this concern, and I want to address
> it directly. Security issues are solvable. I don't just say this in the
> abstract — I'm currently fixing 9 security vulnerabilities across NuttX's
> networking and USB subsystems:
>
>    1. IPv6 extension-header out-of-bounds read — #20885
>    https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20885
>    2. MLDv2 report record-count out-of-bounds read — #20886
>    https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20886
>    3. ICMPv6 Router Advertisement prefix option out-of-bounds read — #20888
>    https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20888
>    4. USB host config-descriptor walk out-of-bounds read and infinite loop
>    — #21101 https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/21101
>    5. USB host composite copyinterface heap buffer overflow — #21101
>    https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/21101
>    6. USB host composite member array out-of-bounds write — #21101
>    https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/21101
>    7. CDC-MBIM NCM frame NDP/DPE walk out-of-bounds read and infinite loop
>    — #20884 https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20884
>    8. USB mass-storage zero block size divide-by-zero in partition scan —
>    #21101 https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/21101
>    9. CDC-MBIM transmit divide-by-zero on zero bulk max packet size —
>    #20884 https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20884
>
> These are all in NuttX's own native code — networking, USB host, CDC —
> subsystems I've worked on extensively. A CVE in any of these would likewise
> disrupt devices in the field. Security is a universal concern for every
> line of code we ship, regardless of its origin. We deal with it through
> review, testing, and prompt fixes — exactly what I'm doing here. I
> genuinely don't understand why you keep bringing this up as if it were
> unique to zblue.
>
>
> BRs,
>
> Alan C. Assis <[email protected]> 于2026年10月29日周四 19:38写道:
>
> > Hi Anchao and Chengkai,
> >
> > Thank you for moving this discussion forward.
> >
> > I think the agreement that NuttX should have only one Bluetooth stack
> (the
> > Zephyr ZBlue stack) is not universally agreed upon, as we saw in the PR
> > discussions.
> >
> > If NuttX selects only one BLE stack it should be its own stack (which is
> > very limited currently and not a feasible option at this moment).
> >
> > Moving zblue to nuttx-apps and making it just an option like the NimBLE
> > appears to be the right thing to do.
> >
> > It could be the stack that most people will use (instead of NimBLE or the
> > native one), but it shouldn't be the only option because it shares almost
> > 1M LoC from Zephyr and poses a huge security risk due to the monoculture
> > effect: a CVE found on Zephyr ZBlue would disrupt all their devices on
> the
> > field and also all NuttX devices using zblue.
> >
> > Imagine if Windows were open-source and someone in the Linux community
> > decided to use the Windows windowing subsystem. It would make it very
> easy
> > for vendors to implement graphical applications for both Windows and
> Linux,
> > but any vulnerability found in Windows would affect Linux. That is
> > basically the scenario here for NuttX.
> >
> > As I said I like the idea of having the option to use a Bluetooth stack
> > like zblue until we evolve our own stack.
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 3:51 AM chao an <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Chengkai,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the clarification.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For question 1, by "NuttX-native integration" I mean more than only
> > > Kconfig,
> > > build glue, driver binding, and public headers. I think the
> > Zephyr-derived
> > >
> > > Bluetooth host should be adapted into a NuttX-maintained stack, with a
> > >
> > > structure that can evolve toward the NuttX kernel/socket architecture.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If we only keep the Zephyr Bluetooth source almost untouched and add a
> > > large
> > > compatibility layer around it, then I do not think that is the right
> > > long-term
> > > direction for the official NuttX Bluetooth architecture.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For question 2, I think NimBLE and Zephyr Bluetooth are different
> cases.
> > >
> > > NimBLE officially provides an OS abstraction layer, so each OS can
> > > integrate it
> > > through its own OSAL. Zephyr Bluetooth does not provide the same OSAL
> > > boundary;
> > > it is deeply tied to the Zephyr kernel model.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That means zblue needs many Zephyr kernel API/header compatibility
> > pieces:
> > >
> > > kernel objects, work queues, timers, buffers, iterable sections, and
> > other
> > >
> > > Zephyr-style assumptions. Even if placed in nuttx-apps, it is not
> really
> > a
> > >
> > > clean standalone userspace library like NimBLE.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My main concern is the long-term roadmap. If we preserve an almost
> > > unmodified
> > > Zephyr Bluetooth tree, then moving L2CAP and lower layers into the
> NuttX
> > >
> > > kernel later will be very difficult, because L2CAP is tightly coupled
> > with
> > >
> > > connection management, buffers, work queues, ATT/SMP, and the Zephyr
> > > execution
> > > model. That migration may become close to a second rewrite.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is different from the current libs/zblue PR, where the stack is
> > > already
> > > treated as NuttX-maintained code and can diverge from Zephyr where the
> > > NuttX
> > > architecture requires it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So my concern is not only external repo vs in-tree. The bigger concern
> is
> > >
> > > whether we are building a real NuttX Bluetooth architecture, or mainly
> > > keeping
> > > a Zephyr runtime compatibility layer around the Zephyr Bluetooth stack.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree this should be decided by the community, but my preference is
> > still
> > > to
> > > adapt the code into a NuttX-native stack first, then submit it directly
> > to
> > >
> > > nuttx.git or nuttx-apps.git depending on the agreed layering.
> > >
> > > BRs,
> > >
> > > 成凯 via dev <[email protected]> 于2026年10月29日周四 14:38写道:
> > >
> > > > hi anchao
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, good to see we are aligned on the direction.
> > > >
> > > > On open point 2, I think the difference is mainly about the starting
> > > point,
> > > > not the end state. We agree the stack should end up reviewed, built
> and
> > > > tested as part of the NuttX repositories. Step 3 of the plan already
> > > allows
> > > > moving the userspace part into nuttx-apps.git.
> > > >
> > > > Two things I would like to understand better:
> > > >
> > > > 1. By "NuttX-style public headers" and "native integration", do you
> > mean
> > > >    reformatting the Zephyr-derived code to nxstyle, or only the NuttX
> > > glue
> > > >    (Kconfig, build, driver binding, public API headers)? We are fine
> > with
> > > > the
> > > >    latter. The former makes picking up upstream fixes much harder,
> > which
> > > is
> > > >    our main concern.
> > > > 2. NimBLE is already integrated this way (download at a pinned
> > revision).
> > > >    Could you share which specific dependency or maintenance issues
> you
> > > are
> > > >    worried about? That would help us address them in the design.
> > > >
> > > > Since this is a project-level decision, I would like to hear from the
> > PMC
> > > > and everyone who has reviewed PR #20686 -- Xiang Xiao, Alan Carvalho
> de
> > > > Assis, Alin Jerpelea, raiden00pl, Tomasz CEDRO (cederom), LingaoM and
> > > > casaroli -- on whether to start with a pinned external repository or
> > with
> > > > in-tree code. We will follow the community's decision.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Kai Cheng
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: archer <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2026 12:19 PM
> > > > To: apache/nuttx
> > > > Cc: 成凯; Mention
> > > > Subject: [External Mail]Re: [apache/nuttx] net/bt: Add native
> Bluetooth
> > > > host stack (PR #20686)
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/758493?s=20&v=4]anchao
> left a
> > > > comment (apache/nuttx#20686)<
> > > > https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/20686#issuecomment-6487811997>
> > > >
> > > > @chengkai15<https://github.com/chengkai15>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the clarification. I think we are mostly aligned on the
> > > > long-term direction, especially about converging to one Zephyr-based
> > > > Bluetooth host and moving toward a BlueZ/Linux-style split for
> > > > protected/kernel builds.
> > > >
> > > > For open point 2, I still prefer not to start from an external
> > repository
> > > > model in the main NuttX integration path.
> > > >
> > > > My suggestion is that the code should first be adapted into a
> > > NuttX-native
> > > > integration style, and then submitted directly to either nuttx.git or
> > > > nuttx-apps.git, depending on the agreed layering. Fetching a large
> > > external
> > > > repository at build time will also bring dependency and maintenance
> > > issues
> > > > with other third-party code, and I do not think that is the best
> > > long-term
> > > > integration model for an official NuttX Bluetooth stack.
> > > >
> > > > In my view, if the stack is going to become part of the NuttX
> Bluetooth
> > > > architecture, it should be reviewed, built, tested, and maintained as
> > > part
> > > > of the NuttX repositories, not as an external component that is only
> > > pinned
> > > > by revision.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe you can use the current PR as a reference for the NuttX-native
> > > > integration structure: top-level CONFIG_ZBLUE_ENABLED, NuttX
> > > build/Kconfig
> > > > integration, NuttX-style public headers, and direct integration with
> > the
> > > > NuttX Bluetooth driver path. The implementation details can certainly
> > be
> > > > changed, but I think this kind of native integration is a better
> > > direction
> > > > than relying on an external fetched repository.
> > > >
> > > > If the openvela version is adjusted in this direction and accepted by
> > the
> > > > community as the common upstream solution, I am willing to drop my
> > > current
> > > > PR and help with that effort. My goal is not to keep my own patch,
> but
> > to
> > > > help NuttX get a complete and maintainable Bluetooth stack.
> > > >
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