Hi,

Alex Boisvert wrote:
I think some of the metrics are not currently supported in the PM API (e.g.
number of messages sent/received).  So we're looking into extending the
query capabilities?

Do you mean queries like "give me all process instances which sent 5 or more messages" or simply the possibility to gather this kind of data?

IMO, the process instance explorer is probably what people want most at
first.   Metrics are very useful once you've got your processes running, but
getting there can be painful.  I would try to invest as much as possible in
the debugging features first, then proceed to metrics after that.  (This is
just my intuition; I'd be happy to hear otherwise)

Although I'd definitely love to have such a debugger I think it is a lot of work and it's not been the main task in the project description and in Milindas application. I think an informative landing page providing metrics and management facilities would be the good starting point for further developing a debugger/bam/whatever webapp but especially for end users who want to see that there is something going on in the engine, and that ODE != Axis2 :)

In the end its up to Milinda (and perhaps Google) to decide whether he wants to stick to the landing page approach with metrics and management facilities, perhaps with basic debugging facilities, or to go for a full blown web debugger (which is definitely cool but perhaps another project).

Cheers,
  Tammo

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