On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Tammo van Lessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Boisvert wrote: > > > I think some of the metrics are not currently supported in the PM API > > (e.g. > > number of messages sent/received). So we're looking into extending the > > query capabilities? > > > > Do you mean queries like "give me all process instances which sent 5 or > more messages" or simply the possibility to gather this kind of data? The first part. > > IMO, the process instance explorer is probably what people want most at > > first. Metrics are very useful once you've got your processes running, > > but > > getting there can be painful. I would try to invest as much as possible > > in > > the debugging features first, then proceed to metrics after that. (This > > is > > just my intuition; I'd be happy to hear otherwise) > > > > Although I'd definitely love to have such a debugger I think it is a lot > of work and it's not been the main task in the project description and in > Milindas application. I think an informative landing page providing metrics > and management facilities would be the good starting point for further > developing a debugger/bam/whatever webapp but especially for end users who > want to see that there is something going on in the engine, and that ODE != > Axis2 :) Ok. I agree it's more work and might not fit within the scope of the project. > In the end its up to Milinda (and perhaps Google) to decide whether he > wants to stick to the landing page approach with metrics and management > facilities, perhaps with basic debugging facilities, or to go for a full > blown web debugger (which is definitely cool but perhaps another project). I'm ready to support both. I just thought debugging might be more interesting/challenging for the developer and more desirable for the users. alex
