Hi all,
I like to improve the UI of ODE. I'll come up with an action plan and the
design.
But I like to have your feedback, before moving forward.
Thanks,
Waruna
On 9 August 2011 13:41, Milinda Pathirage <milinda.pathir...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Tammo and others,
>
> Finally I found some people who are interested in contributing to ODE and
> have some free time to participate in ODE development actively. Some of
> them
> are new to ODE and I think we should start from simple tasks to get them
> familiar with ODE.
>
> We have several number of items in our road map and some of them are
> complex. It's better if we can come up with a plan for immediate action
> items, so that people who are willing to contribute can help us with
> completing tasks on our road map(They can also start with issue in JIRA
> too,
> but I would like to have a action plan so that we can identify and start
> working on urgent tasks).
>
> I think we should start working on ode.apache.org ASAP. Please feel free
> to
> comment on this.
>
> Thanks
> Milinda
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > thanks for attending today's ODE skype call. AFAIK it was the first ODE
> > call of this kind, I think it was interesting and helpful. Lets continue
> > the discussion on the dev list.
> >
> > Here are my notes:
> >
> > Attendees: Anurag Aggarwal, Gary Brown, Jeff Yu, Shivaraj Tenginakai,
> > Sunil Kalva, Milinda Pathirage, Tammo van Lessen
> >
> > Minutes:
> > - Community & Eco system
> > - need to attract more committers that drive the development
> >
> > - Dynamic OModel
> > - current OModel does not support model evolution, hence OModel
> > changes result in binary incompatibilities. Overcoming these issues is
> > costly and cumbersome
> > - Agreement: Need for a dynamic OModel, possibly based on Key-Value
> > structures to keep the static class structure independent of possible
> > OModel changes. The OModel should support migration between OModel
> > versions and should detect automatically what kind of migrations are
> > needed. The old OModel should be kept and should be automatically
> > migrated to the new OModel. Migration is needed since recompilation
> > would break long-running process models.
> >
> > - JPA Refactoring
> > - Status (Jeff): needs some final polishing, some tests need to be
> > fixed in mvn build, then it can be committed to trunk. It supports both,
> > Hibernate and OpenJPA via JPA 2.0
> > - is based on ODE's JPA DAO layer. Tammo has concerns about maturity
> > - Agreement: We keep old JPA and hibernate DAOs but will ship with
> > new JPA DAO as default to get feedback and to continuously improve it.
> >
> > - Backports from experimental (FKA ODE 2.0)
> > - Former ODE 2.0 has some interesting features that are worth to be
> > backported
> >
> > - Build system
> > - Buildr vs. Maven
> > - Agreement: Two build systems is one too many. Unclear which one to
> > choose. Plan is to update the maven build to be as good as buildr and
> > then run a vote.
> > - Current situation: buildr build is fast, stable but people feel
> > uncomfortable with it. Maven2 build has some issues due to the projects
> > modularization, Tammo complains about cumbersome plugin configuration.
> > Jeff, Gary, Milinda prefer Maven, Tammo prefers Buildr.
> >
> > - Patches
> > - There a a couple of Jiras with patches attached. We should run
> > through them and try to apply them. They may help to find potential
> > committers, also they may be low-hanging fruits but greatly improve ODE
> > (e.g. the <validate> activity implementation).
> >
> > - Website
> > - Website does not fully implement ASF's trademark policies.
> > - Discussion whether to stick with Confluence or to move to ASF's CMS.
> > - Gary is concerned about the overhead that is connected with
> > switching documentation system
> > - Milinda has experience with similar Web sites (Axis2) and is
> > checking if he can find some resources that can work of this. Thanks!
> >
> > - Google Summer of Code is a great opportunity to attract new people
> > and to get some interesting contributions. Please file JIRA issues with
> > self-contained project ideas and tag them with gsoc2011. They will then
> > appear on Apache's GSOC ideas list page.
> >
> >
> > Please check the minutes, they are mainly a brain dump, so I hope I got
> > everything right.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tammo
> >
> >
> > On 22.03.2011 04:18, Milinda Pathirage wrote:
> > > Hi Tammo and all,
> > >
> > > I think I should be able to host conference call which you can dial-in.
> > I'll
> > > let you know the status.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Milinda
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Bob Brodt <bbr...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> rbrodt
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________
> > >> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
> > >> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
> > >> JBoss by Red Hat
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> tshivaraj
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tammo van Lessen
> > >>> <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> since the doodle poll did not help to find a preferred slot, we
> > >>>> should
> > >>>> stick to 7:00 utc tomorrow. I don't have access to a conf hosting
> > >>>> service, so I'd prefer skype. Please send me your skype name so that
> > >>>> I
> > >>>> can add you to the call. Mine is tvanlessen. If you can easily host
> > >>>> such a conference, please let me know.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers, Tammo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Monday, March 21, 2011, Jeff Yu <jeff.yuch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Tammo,
> > >>>>> I think you haven't sent out the conf call's detail yet, right?
> > >>>>> RegardsJeff
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Tammo van Lessen
> > >>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> sorry for the delay. Getting a working internet connection took
> > >>>>> longer
> > >>>>> than expected, also the move is not yet fully survived ;)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> To give more notice, I propose to schedule the call for next
> > >>>>> Tuesday,
> > >>>>> March 22, 7:00 UTC. An intermediary agenda can be found at
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ODE Roadmap Call
> > >>>>> <
> > >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0Ac2PXMTvfhyeZHEzMmp3Yl8xNDFmZ3d3cmY4NQ&hl=en&authkey=CMX12esD
> > >>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Would that be working for you?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 27.02.2011 18:45, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi Gary, all
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> agreed, let's cancel the call and find a better date, perhaps Thu
> > >>>>>> 10th
> > >>>>>> or Fr 11th of March. Lets pin that down once I have reliable
> > >>>>>> internet
> > >>>>>> access again (mid next week).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> @all, please let me know if none of these work for you or if you
> > >>>>>> strongly prefer one.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 26.02.2011 10:28, Gary Brown wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hi Tammo
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I could probably make it, but I think it may be better to give
> > >>>>>>> more notice,
> > >>>>>>> to ensure as many people can attend.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> So would suggest moving the meeting to the following week, after
> > >>>>>>> your move?
> > >>>>>>> The time is fine for me, but I would not be able to do Monday or
> > >>>>>>> Tuesday
> > >>>>>>> next week.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>> Gary
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Jeff Yu <jeff.yuch...@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I am available.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>> Jeff
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Tammo van Lessen
> > >>>>>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> sorry for the delay. Looks like finding a perfect date is quite
> > >>>>>>>>> difficult since our timezone distribution could not be better
> > >>>>>>>>> ;)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I hope I resolve the timezone names properly, so here is our
> > >>>>>>>>> current
> > >>>>>>>>> situation ;)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=25&month=2&year=2011&p1=136&p2=37&p3=54&p4=240&p5=224&p6=75&iv=0
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I think it's almost impossible to find a good time for
> > >>>>>>>>> everybody. I
> > >>>>>>>>> think the best match would be 7:00 UTC.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Would you be available next Monday?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2011&month=2&day=28&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=136&p2=37&p3=54&p4=240&p5=224&p6=75
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Other days next week are a bit difficult for me since I'm
> > >>>>>>>>> moving.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if Monday 7am UTC is fine with you.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 18.02.2011 19:46, Veresh Jain wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would like to join, GMT -8 Timezone.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>> Veresh
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 02/08/2011 06:17 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi devs,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> a new year, a new release, time to discuss ODE's roadmap
> > >>>>>>>>>>> again.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> There are a couple of issues on my list that I'd like to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss with
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) Status of JPA refactoring
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) Evolveable OModel and runtime model
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3) Backports from experimental
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 4) Community& Eco system
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of having a skype call to discuss these
> > >>>>>>>>>>> issues?
> > >>>>>>>> Please
> > >>>>>>>>>>> let me know your availability, interest, timezones and/or
> > >>>>>>>>>>> additional
> > >>>>>>>>>>> issues so that I can schedule a meeting.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>> Jeff Yu
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----------------
> > >>>>> blog: http://jeff.familyyu.net
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Milinda Pathirage
> Technical Lead & Product Manager WSO2 BPS; http://wso2.org/bps
> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com
> E-mail: mili...@wso2.com, milinda.pathir...@gmail.com
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>
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