Hi guys,
That's great news and is much appreciated! I'm on vacation currently with
none to limited connectivity, so please excuse me being quiet and n/a this
month.
Cheers, Tammo
Am 09.08.2011 05:13 schrieb "Waruna Ranasinghe" <waruna...@gmail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> I like to improve the UI of ODE. I'll come up with an action plan and the
> design.
> But I like to have your feedback, before moving forward.
>
> Thanks,
> Waruna
>
> On 9 August 2011 13:41, Milinda Pathirage <milinda.pathir...@gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Tammo and others,
>>
>> Finally I found some people who are interested in contributing to ODE and
>> have some free time to participate in ODE development actively. Some of
>> them
>> are new to ODE and I think we should start from simple tasks to get them
>> familiar with ODE.
>>
>> We have several number of items in our road map and some of them are
>> complex. It's better if we can come up with a plan for immediate action
>> items, so that people who are willing to contribute can help us with
>> completing tasks on our road map(They can also start with issue in JIRA
>> too,
>> but I would like to have a action plan so that we can identify and start
>> working on urgent tasks).
>>
>> I think we should start working on ode.apache.org ASAP. Please feel free
>> to
>> comment on this.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Milinda
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > thanks for attending today's ODE skype call. AFAIK it was the first ODE
>> > call of this kind, I think it was interesting and helpful. Lets
continue
>> > the discussion on the dev list.
>> >
>> > Here are my notes:
>> >
>> > Attendees: Anurag Aggarwal, Gary Brown, Jeff Yu, Shivaraj Tenginakai,
>> > Sunil Kalva, Milinda Pathirage, Tammo van Lessen
>> >
>> > Minutes:
>> > - Community & Eco system
>> > - need to attract more committers that drive the development
>> >
>> > - Dynamic OModel
>> > - current OModel does not support model evolution, hence OModel
>> > changes result in binary incompatibilities. Overcoming these issues is
>> > costly and cumbersome
>> > - Agreement: Need for a dynamic OModel, possibly based on Key-Value
>> > structures to keep the static class structure independent of possible
>> > OModel changes. The OModel should support migration between OModel
>> > versions and should detect automatically what kind of migrations are
>> > needed. The old OModel should be kept and should be automatically
>> > migrated to the new OModel. Migration is needed since recompilation
>> > would break long-running process models.
>> >
>> > - JPA Refactoring
>> > - Status (Jeff): needs some final polishing, some tests need to be
>> > fixed in mvn build, then it can be committed to trunk. It supports
both,
>> > Hibernate and OpenJPA via JPA 2.0
>> > - is based on ODE's JPA DAO layer. Tammo has concerns about maturity
>> > - Agreement: We keep old JPA and hibernate DAOs but will ship with
>> > new JPA DAO as default to get feedback and to continuously improve it.
>> >
>> > - Backports from experimental (FKA ODE 2.0)
>> > - Former ODE 2.0 has some interesting features that are worth to be
>> > backported
>> >
>> > - Build system
>> > - Buildr vs. Maven
>> > - Agreement: Two build systems is one too many. Unclear which one to
>> > choose. Plan is to update the maven build to be as good as buildr and
>> > then run a vote.
>> > - Current situation: buildr build is fast, stable but people feel
>> > uncomfortable with it. Maven2 build has some issues due to the projects
>> > modularization, Tammo complains about cumbersome plugin configuration.
>> > Jeff, Gary, Milinda prefer Maven, Tammo prefers Buildr.
>> >
>> > - Patches
>> > - There a a couple of Jiras with patches attached. We should run
>> > through them and try to apply them. They may help to find potential
>> > committers, also they may be low-hanging fruits but greatly improve ODE
>> > (e.g. the <validate> activity implementation).
>> >
>> > - Website
>> > - Website does not fully implement ASF's trademark policies.
>> > - Discussion whether to stick with Confluence or to move to ASF's CMS.
>> > - Gary is concerned about the overhead that is connected with
>> > switching documentation system
>> > - Milinda has experience with similar Web sites (Axis2) and is
>> > checking if he can find some resources that can work of this. Thanks!
>> >
>> > - Google Summer of Code is a great opportunity to attract new people
>> > and to get some interesting contributions. Please file JIRA issues with
>> > self-contained project ideas and tag them with gsoc2011. They will then
>> > appear on Apache's GSOC ideas list page.
>> >
>> >
>> > Please check the minutes, they are mainly a brain dump, so I hope I got
>> > everything right.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tammo
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22.03.2011 04:18, Milinda Pathirage wrote:
>> > > Hi Tammo and all,
>> > >
>> > > I think I should be able to host conference call which you can
dial-in.
>> > I'll
>> > > let you know the status.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Milinda
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Bob Brodt <bbr...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> rbrodt
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________
>> > >> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
>> > >> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
>> > >> JBoss by Red Hat
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>> tshivaraj
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tammo van Lessen
>> > >>> <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> Hi guys,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> since the doodle poll did not help to find a preferred slot, we
>> > >>>> should
>> > >>>> stick to 7:00 utc tomorrow. I don't have access to a conf hosting
>> > >>>> service, so I'd prefer skype. Please send me your skype name so
that
>> > >>>> I
>> > >>>> can add you to the call. Mine is tvanlessen. If you can easily
host
>> > >>>> such a conference, please let me know.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Cheers, Tammo
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Monday, March 21, 2011, Jeff Yu <jeff.yuch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>> Hi Tammo,
>> > >>>>> I think you haven't sent out the conf call's detail yet, right?
>> > >>>>> RegardsJeff
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Tammo van Lessen
>> > >>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>> Hi guys,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> sorry for the delay. Getting a working internet connection took
>> > >>>>> longer
>> > >>>>> than expected, also the move is not yet fully survived ;)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> To give more notice, I propose to schedule the call for next
>> > >>>>> Tuesday,
>> > >>>>> March 22, 7:00 UTC. An intermediary agenda can be found at
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> ODE Roadmap Call
>> > >>>>> <
>> > >>
>> >
>>
https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0Ac2PXMTvfhyeZHEzMmp3Yl8xNDFmZ3d3cmY4NQ&hl=en&authkey=CMX12esD
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Would that be working for you?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On 27.02.2011 18:45, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>> > >>>>>> Hi Gary, all
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> agreed, let's cancel the call and find a better date, perhaps
Thu
>> > >>>>>> 10th
>> > >>>>>> or Fr 11th of March. Lets pin that down once I have reliable
>> > >>>>>> internet
>> > >>>>>> access again (mid next week).
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> @all, please let me know if none of these work for you or if you
>> > >>>>>> strongly prefer one.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On 26.02.2011 10:28, Gary Brown wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> Hi Tammo
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I could probably make it, but I think it may be better to give
>> > >>>>>>> more notice,
>> > >>>>>>> to ensure as many people can attend.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> So would suggest moving the meeting to the following week,
after
>> > >>>>>>> your move?
>> > >>>>>>> The time is fine for me, but I would not be able to do Monday
or
>> > >>>>>>> Tuesday
>> > >>>>>>> next week.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Regards
>> > >>>>>>> Gary
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Jeff Yu <
jeff.yuch...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I am available.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Regards
>> > >>>>>>>> Jeff
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Tammo van Lessen
>> > >>>>>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> sorry for the delay. Looks like finding a perfect date is
quite
>> > >>>>>>>>> difficult since our timezone distribution could not be better
>> > >>>>>>>>> ;)
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I hope I resolve the timezone names properly, so here is our
>> > >>>>>>>>> current
>> > >>>>>>>>> situation ;)
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>
>> >
>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=25&month=2&year=2011&p1=136&p2=37&p3=54&p4=240&p5=224&p6=75&iv=0
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I think it's almost impossible to find a good time for
>> > >>>>>>>>> everybody. I
>> > >>>>>>>>> think the best match would be 7:00 UTC.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Would you be available next Monday?
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>
>> >
>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2011&month=2&day=28&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=136&p2=37&p3=54&p4=240&p5=224&p6=75
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Other days next week are a bit difficult for me since I'm
>> > >>>>>>>>> moving.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if Monday 7am UTC is fine with you.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On 18.02.2011 19:46, Veresh Jain wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> I would like to join, GMT -8 Timezone.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Veresh
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 02/08/2011 06:17 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi devs,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> a new year, a new release, time to discuss ODE's roadmap
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> again.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> There are a couple of issues on my list that I'd like to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss with
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> you.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) Status of JPA refactoring
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) Evolveable OModel and runtime model
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3) Backports from experimental
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 4) Community& Eco system
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of having a skype call to discuss these
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> issues?
>> > >>>>>>>> Please
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> let me know your availability, interest, timezones and/or
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> additional
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> issues so that I can schedule a meeting.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> <
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>>> Jeff Yu
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> ----------------
>> > >>>>> blog: http://jeff.familyyu.net
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>> > >>>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Milinda Pathirage
>> Technical Lead & Product Manager WSO2 BPS; http://wso2.org/bps
>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com
>> E-mail: mili...@wso2.com, milinda.pathir...@gmail.com
>> Web: http://mpathirage.com
>> Blog: http://blog.mpathirage.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Regards,
> Waruna Ranasinghe
>
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