Sudharma,

Where are you going to configure the master-slaves, is it in the web
application level or at the load balancer?

regards,
sathwik

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:42 PM, sudharma subasinghe <suba...@cse.mrt.ac.lk>
wrote:

> Hi Tammo,
>
> Can you suggest the best method from these to implement? As first I
> suggested the master-slaves scenario I think it is easy to implement than
> distributed lock scenario. However if you can suggest one from these two,
> then I can think about it.
>
> Thank you
>
> On 21 May 2015 at 12:40, Sathwik B P <sathwik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > With respect to the hotdeployment,
> >
> > We can drop the deployment archive onto the deployment folder. Since the
> > DeploymentPoller are acquiring the distributed lock for the
> DeploymentUnit,
> > only one of the nodes will get the lock and initiate the deployment.
> > DeploymentPollers on other nodes will fail in acquiring the lock and
> hence
> > will silently ignore it.
> >
> > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Sathwik B P <sathwik...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Tammo,
> > >
> > > The distributed lock acquisition on the DeploymentUnit should be added
> to
> > > both DeploymentWebService and DeploymentPoller.
> > >
> > > When a deployment operation is initiated through the
> > DeploymentWebService,
> > > The load balancer routes it to any of the available nodes.
> > >
> > > On the routed node, the DeploymentWebService acquires the Distributed
> > > lock. On the remaining nodes the DeploymentPoller will try to acquire
> the
> > > distributed lock and will not get it and hence will silently ignore it.
> > >
> > > Once the routed node completes the deployment, it will release the
> lock.
> > > This way we don't have to stall the DeploymentPoller in other nodes.
> > >
> > > Does it answer the concerns?
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, if we give the responsibility of identifying the master node to
> the
> > > hazelcast, how do we plan to intimate the load balancer to change it's
> > > configuration about the master node?
> > > Assuming there are 3 nodes in the cluster,
> > > node1 -master
> > > node2 - slave
> > > node3 - slave
> > >
> > > Node1 goes down, the LB will promote Node2 as master node, but
> hazelcast
> > > might promote Node3 as master node. They are out of sync.
> > >
> > > Is this argument valid?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > sathwik
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Tammo van Lessen <
> tvanles...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Sudharma,
> > >>
> > >> what do you expect from the "other nodes deployment"? Compilation is
> not
> > >> needed since the CBP file is written to the (shared) FS. Registration
> is
> > >> also not needed, since it is done via the shared database. So the only
> > >> thing that might be needed is to tell the engine that there is a new
> > >> deployment. I'd need to check that. If this is needed, I revert my
> last
> > >> statement, then it is perhaps better to just send an event over
> > Hazelcast
> > >> to all nodes that the deployment has changed.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>   Tammo
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:13 AM, sudharma subasinghe <
> > >> suba...@cse.mrt.ac.lk
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Tammo,
> > >> >
> > >> > The master node writes meta data. But runtime information must be
> > >> available
> > >> > in all nodes.Since the folder is shared, all nodes will see the
> > >> > availability of a new process. My idea is for master node to write
> the
> > >> meta
> > >> > data and other nodes to just read the meta data and load process.So
> we
> > >> need
> > >> > a small delay between master node deployment and other nodes
> > deployment.
> > >> >
> > >> > Is there anyway to set the delay between master node and slaves
> until
> > >> > master node finish the deployment?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you
> > >> > Sudharma
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 20 May 2015 at 13:01, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Sathwik,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Sathwik B P <
> sathwik...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Sudharma/Tammo,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 1) How do we plan to decide which is the master node in the
> > cluster?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think the easiest approach is to always elect the oldest node in
> > the
> > >> > > cluster to be the master. AFAIK Hazelcast can easily asked for
> this
> > >> > > information.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > 2) Don't we need to stall the Deployment Pollers in the slave
> > nodes?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > Absolutely.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Suggestion:
> > >> > > > I am not sure whether do we need Master-SLaves. Why not give
> every
> > >> node
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > the cluster the same status (Active-Active).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > When a new deployment is made, the load balancer can push it to
> > any
> > >> of
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > available nodes. That node will probably acquire a distributed
> > lock
> > >> on
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > deployment unit and acts as master for that deployment. This
> > ensures
> > >> > > > optimum usage of the cluster nodes. Probably no static
> > >> configuration of
> > >> > > > Master-Slave in the load balancer nor in the hazelcast.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > But this would not allow to have the hotdeployment via filesystem
> > >> still
> > >> > > enabled, right?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best,
> > >> > >   Tammo
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Reply via email to