Sudharma, We definitely need a master/slave in the hazelcast cluster. This is probably needed for the job migration in the Scheduler to migrate the jobs associated with a down node. Let hold on this topic for future discussion.
Going by the explanation where the master/slave nodes have certain predefined tasks to perform is perfectly fine. I have this scenario, I am using HAProxy as my load balancer and configured 3 nodes in the cluster. Node1 - Active Node2 - Active Node3 - Backup Load balancing algorithm: RoundRobin A Backup node (Node3) is one which the load balancer will not route requests to, until one of the Active node i.e either Node1 or Node2 has gone down. All these 3 nodes are also part of the hazelcast cluster as well. In the hazelcast cluster, assume Node1 is elected as the leader/master and Node2,Node3 as slaves. I initiate the deploy operation on the DeploymentWebService which the load balancer routes it to one of the Active nodes in the cluster, lets say it's the Node1. Since Node1 is also the master in the hazelcast cluster, deployment is a success. I initiate another deploy operation on the DeploymentWebService which the load balancer routes it to the next active node which is Node2. Since Node2 is a slave in the Hazelcast cluster, What happens to the deployment? regards, sathwik On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:55 PM, sudharma subasinghe <suba...@cse.mrt.ac.lk > wrote: > Hi, > > I will explain my approach as much as possible. The oldest node in the > hazelcast cluster is elected as the master node. In the failure of the > master node, next oldest node will be elected as the master node. This > master-slave configuration is just for deployment. When the hazelcast > cluster elected the master node, that node becomes a master node for > deploying process. So it will do the deploying artifacts. If you want to > get the idea of electing master node please refer the code which I have > located in the github. ( > https://github.com/Subasinghe/ode/tree/ode_clustering) > > I identified separated actions which should be followed by the master and > salve nodes. > Actions which are followed by master node only > 1) create deployment unit > 2) set the version nu to deployment unit > 3) compile deployment unit > 4) scan deployment unit > 5) retire previous versions > Master node and slave nodes should create _processes which stores > ProcessConfImpl > Only master node will write the version nu to database, create .deployed > file > > So there are some actions which should be followed only by master node > while other actions should be followed by all the nodes.The idea of having > a master node is deploying artifacts and avoid others from writing the > version nu to database. > Whether a node is active or passive, all nodes should do the > deployment.Master > and slaves will follow necessary actions as in above. > > > > > > On 27 May 2015 at 15:49, Sathwik B P <sathwik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Nandika, > > > > I very well understand what you have put across, but it's secondary to me > > now. > > > > Sudharma, > > My primary concern is to understand at a high level the deployment > > architecture and how would master-slave configuration fit in. Are there > any > > restrictions imposed by the in-progress design? > > > > Firstly, how would ODE process deployment work under these cluster > > configurations? > > > > Sample Cluster configurations: A load balancer is frontending the > servers. > > 1) Cluster consisting of 2 nodes all Active-Active. > > 2) Cluster consisting of 2 nodes Active-Passive. > > 3) Cluster with 2+ nodes with additional nodes either in Active or > Passive. > > > > regards, > > sathwik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Nandika Jayawardana <jayaw...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Sathwik, > > > > > > According to my understanding, in the clustering scenario, the master > > node > > > should perform all the deployment actions and the slave nodes also need > > to > > > perform some deployment actions. For example, the slave nodes also > should > > > handle the process ACTIVATED event so that the process configuration is > > > added to the engine and necessary web services are created so that when > > the > > > load balancer send requests to any node in the cluster, it is ready to > > > accept those requests. > > > > > > Regards > > > Nandika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Sathwik B P <sathwik...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Sudharma, > > > > > > > > Where are you going to configure the master-slaves, is it in the web > > > > application level or at the load balancer? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > sathwik > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:42 PM, sudharma subasinghe < > > > > suba...@cse.mrt.ac.lk> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Tammo, > > > > > > > > > > Can you suggest the best method from these to implement? As first I > > > > > suggested the master-slaves scenario I think it is easy to > implement > > > than > > > > > distributed lock scenario. However if you can suggest one from > these > > > two, > > > > > then I can think about it. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > On 21 May 2015 at 12:40, Sathwik B P <sathwik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > With respect to the hotdeployment, > > > > > > > > > > > > We can drop the deployment archive onto the deployment folder. > > Since > > > > the > > > > > > DeploymentPoller are acquiring the distributed lock for the > > > > > DeploymentUnit, > > > > > > only one of the nodes will get the lock and initiate the > > deployment. > > > > > > DeploymentPollers on other nodes will fail in acquiring the lock > > and > > > > > hence > > > > > > will silently ignore it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Sathwik B P < > > sathwik...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tammo, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The distributed lock acquisition on the DeploymentUnit should > be > > > > added > > > > > to > > > > > > > both DeploymentWebService and DeploymentPoller. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a deployment operation is initiated through the > > > > > > DeploymentWebService, > > > > > > > The load balancer routes it to any of the available nodes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the routed node, the DeploymentWebService acquires the > > > Distributed > > > > > > > lock. On the remaining nodes the DeploymentPoller will try to > > > acquire > > > > > the > > > > > > > distributed lock and will not get it and hence will silently > > ignore > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the routed node completes the deployment, it will release > > the > > > > > lock. > > > > > > > This way we don't have to stall the DeploymentPoller in other > > > nodes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does it answer the concerns? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, if we give the responsibility of identifying the master > node > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > hazelcast, how do we plan to intimate the load balancer to > change > > > > it's > > > > > > > configuration about the master node? > > > > > > > Assuming there are 3 nodes in the cluster, > > > > > > > node1 -master > > > > > > > node2 - slave > > > > > > > node3 - slave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Node1 goes down, the LB will promote Node2 as master node, but > > > > > hazelcast > > > > > > > might promote Node3 as master node. They are out of sync. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this argument valid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > sathwik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Tammo van Lessen < > > > > > tvanles...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Sudharma, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> what do you expect from the "other nodes deployment"? > > Compilation > > > is > > > > > not > > > > > > >> needed since the CBP file is written to the (shared) FS. > > > > Registration > > > > > is > > > > > > >> also not needed, since it is done via the shared database. So > > the > > > > only > > > > > > >> thing that might be needed is to tell the engine that there > is a > > > new > > > > > > >> deployment. I'd need to check that. If this is needed, I > revert > > my > > > > > last > > > > > > >> statement, then it is perhaps better to just send an event > over > > > > > > Hazelcast > > > > > > >> to all nodes that the deployment has changed. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Best, > > > > > > >> Tammo > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:13 AM, sudharma subasinghe < > > > > > > >> suba...@cse.mrt.ac.lk > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Hi Tammo, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > The master node writes meta data. But runtime information > must > > > be > > > > > > >> available > > > > > > >> > in all nodes.Since the folder is shared, all nodes will see > > the > > > > > > >> > availability of a new process. My idea is for master node to > > > write > > > > > the > > > > > > >> meta > > > > > > >> > data and other nodes to just read the meta data and load > > > > process.So > > > > > we > > > > > > >> need > > > > > > >> > a small delay between master node deployment and other nodes > > > > > > deployment. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Is there anyway to set the delay between master node and > > slaves > > > > > until > > > > > > >> > master node finish the deployment? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Thank you > > > > > > >> > Sudharma > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On 20 May 2015 at 13:01, Tammo van Lessen < > > tvanles...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Hi Sathwik, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Sathwik B P < > > > > > sathwik...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Sudharma/Tammo, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > 1) How do we plan to decide which is the master node in > > the > > > > > > cluster? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > I think the easiest approach is to always elect the oldest > > > node > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > > cluster to be the master. AFAIK Hazelcast can easily asked > > for > > > > > this > > > > > > >> > > information. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > 2) Don't we need to stall the Deployment Pollers in the > > > slave > > > > > > nodes? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Absolutely. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Suggestion: > > > > > > >> > > > I am not sure whether do we need Master-SLaves. Why not > > give > > > > > every > > > > > > >> node > > > > > > >> > > in > > > > > > >> > > > the cluster the same status (Active-Active). > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > When a new deployment is made, the load balancer can > push > > it > > > > to > > > > > > any > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > >> > > the > > > > > > >> > > > available nodes. That node will probably acquire a > > > distributed > > > > > > lock > > > > > > >> on > > > > > > >> > > the > > > > > > >> > > > deployment unit and acts as master for that deployment. > > This > > > > > > ensures > > > > > > >> > > > optimum usage of the cluster nodes. Probably no static > > > > > > >> configuration of > > > > > > >> > > > Master-Slave in the load balancer nor in the hazelcast. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > But this would not allow to have the hotdeployment via > > > > filesystem > > > > > > >> still > > > > > > >> > > enabled, right? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Best, > > > > > > >> > > Tammo > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > > >> > > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > >> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
