+1

with a small modification: I don't think we'll need a two-folder structure /docs/asciidoc, only /docs should be sufficient, no?

Regards,

Michael


Am 25.01.18 um 15:00 schrieb Sharan Foga:
Hi Taher

The picture helps :-) I had to do a bit of a double-take but I get it now and a 
big +1

I like what you are suggesting – very nice. It is not entirely following the  
menu structure (which is good) instead it is looking at the individual topics. 
This means that we can make the main document flow a lot easier than simply 
following what we have in the menus. (e.g We know that you can get to the same 
place from by different routes on the menus and screens, so focussing on the 
topic itself will help that.)

I think this will give us the flexibility we need. A standard structure helps 
people know where to put things.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018/01/25 11:37:02, Taher Alkhateeb <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

So after a little bit of thinking, I came up with an example file
structure for OFBiz documentation which is listed below. The full
OFBiz manual simply points to all the parts in applications,
framework, and themes to complete the documentation. Any ideas or
feedback is welcomed.

A few points to note:
- Gradle by default ignores any files in the _include sub directory
and so it will only publish the outer document.
- This way, we can publish per component (in isolation) or the whole
documentation by simply publishing the ofbiz-manual.adoc file
- We can further branch out the documentation as needed.

ofbiz
├── applications
│   ├── accounting
│   │   └── src
│   │       └── docs
│   │           └── asciidoc
│   │               ├── accounting.adoc
│   │               └── _include
│   │                   ├── accounting-intro.adoc
│   │                   ├── budgets.adoc
│   │                   ├── invoices.adoc
│   │                   ├── payments.adoc
│   │                   └── understanding-general-ledger.adoc
│   └── humanres
│       └── src
│           └── docs
│               └── asciidoc
│                   ├── humanres.adoc
│                   └── _include
│                       ├── employee-evaluations.adoc
│                       ├── human-resources-intro.adoc
│                       └── punch-in-punch-out.adoc
├── framework
│   ├── base
│   │   └── src
│   │       └── docs
│   │           └── asciidoc
│   │               ├── base.adoc
│   │               └── _include
│   │                   ├── containers.adoc
│   │                   ├── framework-intro.adoc
│   │                   └── loading-components.adoc
│   ├── entity
│   │   └── src
│   │       └── docs
│   │           └── asciidoc
│   │               ├── entity.adoc
│   │               └── _include
│   │                   ├── entity-conditions-api.adoc
│   │                   ├── entity-engine-intro.adoc
│   │                   └── mapping-new-database.adoc
│   └── widget
│       └── src
│           └── docs
│               └── asciidoc
│                   ├── _include
│                   │   ├── form-widgets.adoc
│                   │   ├── screen-widgets.adoc
│                   │   └── widget-system-intro.adoc
│                   └── widget.adoc
├── ofbiz-manual.adoc
├── plugins
│   └── example
│       └── src
│           └── docs
│               └── asciidoc
│                   ├── example.adoc
│                   └── _include
│                       ├── example-intro.adoc
│                       └── extending-example-widgets.adoc
└── themes
     └── common-theme
         └── src
             └── docs
                 └── asciidoc
                     ├── common-theme.adoc
                     └── _include
                         ├── ofbiz-themes-intro.adoc
                         ├── web-assets.adoc
                         └── why-common-theme.adoc

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Sharan, Craig,

We already have a document that consolidates many smaller documents into
itself, but as said Sharan in another reply it got not much attention
because it was maybe not statisfying (though had interesting info)

https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML

My 2cts

Jacques



Le 18/01/2018 à 13:31, Sharan Foga a écrit :
Hi Craig

Generally I was thinking about how it was going to be laid out. So if you
think about one big consolidated OFBiz Guide that contains both technical
and user guide info, then what would that look like? How would you structure
the one consolidated output?

I don't think that it would necessarily need to mirror the exact structure
of the menus - it just depends on how it's linked to the overall process (if
you are thinking user docs). Also some of the things we need to write about
won't appear anywhere in the menus - so we'll need a general place for that.

My comment was also about the format of each of the source documents to
ensure consistency. Since we are going to be consolidating many smaller
documents into one big one, so it needs to look like they belong together.

Hope that makes it clearer.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018-01-17 16:08, Craig Parker <[email protected]> wrote:
I think the doc structure ought to mirror the menu in the software, or
are you talking about how a doc itself is laid out?


On 01/17/2018 09:25 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:
Hi Taher

Great work! I tried it out and found it simple and easy to use (and
write!). When can we start writing ? :-)

I was thinking to start with basic descriptions of each of the
applications, then see how it evolves from there. We can maybe recover some
documentation content from various sources including our existing online
help system and the wiki.

The documentation structure will maybe need some thought, and we may
need to sort out some common template or guidelines around it.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018-01-14 12:33, "Sharan Foga"<[email protected]> wrote:
Excellent news Taher!

Thanks very much for your effort on this. I'll aim to try it out this
week and come back with any feedback.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018-01-12 17:36, Taher Alkhateeb <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello everyone,

Sorry for the delay on my part, I got a little preoccupied. Anyway, I
have a small patch in [1] that provides the PoC for integrating
asciidoctor with OFBiz. I also provided in the the JIRA [1]
instructions on how to run it. Essentially, this allows you to create
documentation for any component by simply creating a src/docs/asciidoc
directory and putting files inside.

This solution is flexible and allows us to build bigger designs on top
of it. Please review it and tell me if you like the general design.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9873

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Taher Alkhateeb
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Folks,

We've had this discussion multiple times in the past, but I think I
have a more concrete idea this time for solving this problem. In the
past few weeks we've been working internally in Pythys to figure out
the best way to write and distribute documentation, and I think most
of that is applicable to OFBiz.

In a nutshell, here is the idea (practically) for how to proceed:

- The documentation language to use is Asciidoc
- The documentation tool is Asciidoctor
- Publishing happens through Gradle using the asciidoctor gradle
plugin (not the OFBiz framework or anything else).
- The only place where we write documentation is inside the code base
- Every component contains its own documentation
- General documentation goes to either a standalone directory or a
generic component like common or base
- As much as possible, documentation files are small and focused on
one topic. And then other longer documents are constructed from these
snippets of documentation.
- We publish to all formats including PDF for users, or HTML for
embedded help and wiki pages. So OFBiz does not parse docbook for its
help system, instead it just renders generated HTML.

As I've worked extensively with Asciidoc I find it easy to pickup
(like markdown) but also modular (like docbook and dita). It's also
neat that you can sprinkle variables all around in your document so
that update is no longer a painful grepping process.

Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Cheers,

Taher Alkhateeb


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