Michael,

I told you before in (other) tickets to stop trolling me through your
complaints in the tickets I am working on. You continue to do this.
Your remarks about you not committing the code contributions of
unprivileged contributors are totally inappropriate.  Not appropriate in
ticket comments, nor in the mailing lists of the project. Nobody is
strong-arming you to commit or merge improvements. Nobody is expecting you
ever will.
Stop trying to pressure fellow contributors, collaborating to improve
OFBiz, to follow your dictate by your attempt to frame a narrative that
there is an agreement about how contributors are to contribute what, where
and when.
Such narrative is solely intended to dictate the direction of the project
for your self serving purposes, resulting in alienating fellow contributors
from collaborating in the OFBiz project to get improvements into its
repositories.

There has never been such an agreement on how, what, where and when to
contribute in the OFBiz community. Nor on the specific subject of what the
correct translation label that is to be used in OFBiz screens and forms.
No discussion on that latter subject has ever been started on the dev
mailing list, nor is there any series of postings on that list that could
lead to someone being able to claim that a kind of consensus could be
derived from such a thread.

It appears, IMO, that you don't want what is for the good of the public
through the deliverables of the OFBiz project.
Your business needs and goals are not the concerns of the project, nor the
concerns of the contributors not paid by you(r company).
You keep your Ecomify rules re OFBiz to yourself and for your employees,
instead of presenting them as rules (or agreements) of the project. In this
project there are no such 'contribution' rules.
There are only guidelines, and precedents established over time within the
project. And these indicate that anything goes.

If you want to change what the way is how contributions are done to the
project, you start a discussion on the dev mailing list of the project and
work that discussion towards a consensus. Alternatively you follow the lead
of what many of your fellow privileged contributors do in this project
nowadays.

Again: s*top trolling me*. You bring nothing new to the tickets I am
working. Keep your complaints to yourself, or use them to create a positive
change to the project that will make OFBiz more appealing, more
trustworthy, attracting a greater diversity of contributors instead of a
negative change.

If you want to improve OFBiz, go work the tickets that have your name as
the assignee to a successful conclusion (or take those of the contributors
paid by your company, or - if that is all done - take those that are
unassigned as there are plenty of possibilities there), instead of
harassing fellow contributors and me collaborating to improve OFBiz.



Pierre Smits
*Proud* *contributor** of* Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org/> since
2008 (without privileges)
Proud contributor to the ASF since 2006

*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:57 PM Michael Brohl (Jira) <j...@apache.org>
wrote:

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> Michael Brohl commented on OFBIZ-12489:
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Thanks Jacques.
>
> I think you misunderstood my point respectively I made myself not clear
> enough. I know that we agreed upon the use of common labels vs. specific
> labels and simply put a reminder to give context. I didn't meant to say
> that you don't care about labels and I'm sorry if it came across this way.
>
> I totally agree with your statement "I have always thought that example is
> better than commanding."
>
> In this case, I do not think the lack of example is the problem. We've
> spent a lot of energy together to explain the points with common vs.
> specific labels and quite a few issues were resolved as "Won't do" in this
> course.
>
> Being unfair was in no way targeted to you but to the contributor who
> seems to intentionally ignore past decisions and still tries to sneak in
> his point of view through contributions, often not even mentioning those
> changes in the commit messages.
>
> As a result, I won't commit those changes but insist that the contributor
> does the correction before the changes go to the codebase. Why should
> anyone else be bothered with this task than the contributor himself?
>
> Not sure if it will be a lesson because it had no consequences for the
> contributor. Where's the learning effect then?
>
> I will spent my time reviewing and commenting the PR's which I did the
> last days. I'm not sure if I am able or willing to spent my time correcting
> things which easily could have been avoided in the first place, we will see.
>
> > Product Prices - VIEW permissions
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: OFBIZ-12489
> >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-12489
> >             Project: OFBiz
> >          Issue Type: Improvement
> >          Components: product/catalog
> >    Affects Versions: Upcoming Branch
> >            Reporter: Pierre Smits
> >            Assignee: Pierre Smits
> >            Priority: Major
> >              Labels: permissions, price, product, trust, usability, ux
> >             Fix For: Upcoming Branch
> >
> >
> > Currently, a user with only 'VIEW' permissions, as demonstrated in trunk
> demo with userId = auditor, accessing the product prices screen, sees
> editable fields and/or triggers (to requests) reserved for users with
> 'CREATE' or 'UPDATE' permissions.
> > See (test with):
> https://localhost:8443/catalog/control/EditProductPrices?productId=WG-9943
>
>
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