+1 Your comment makes perfect sense to me. Thank you Daniel for sharing your thoughts.
I didn't think that way, so I shared my thoughts on manual OS upgrades. Thank you. -- Kind Regards, Ashish Vijaywargiya Vice President of Operations *HotWax Systems* *Enterprise open source experts* http://www.hotwaxsystems.com On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:22 PM Daniel Watford <d...@foomoo.co.uk> wrote: > Since we run the demo sites out of containers, in my opinion, the VM > operating system is not too important, at least to a certain extent. > > Installing and patching the OS is really a concern of INFRA. If we want to > move to newer OS, we should request a new VM with INFRA-preferred OS > already installed. We would then deploy the demo sites to the new VM and > then update DNS to reference the new VM. We would then hand back the older > VM to INFRA. > > We shouldn't manually update the OS on the existing VM. Remember VMs should > be cattle, not pets! :) > > It could also be time to run a project to automatically deploy the demo > sites, perhaps using Ansible or integrating with INFRA's Puppet deployment. > > Daniel Watford > > https://watfordconsulting.com > <https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/n2QFCVVyf2vLXvhGoNoa/> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025, 4:11 PM Ashish Vijaywargiya < > ashish.vijaywarg...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote: > > > >> Maybe we need to upgrade Ubuntu (currently 20.04.6 LTS) to latest LTS, > > ie 24.04... > > > > Hello Jacques, > > > > I highly recommend first going with Ubuntu 22.04. > > It's very stable and we recently upgraded most of our on-premise and > > on-cloud servers from Ubuntu 20.04 to Ubuntu 22.04. > > And we haven't faced any major issues from this(20.04 to 22.04) upgrade. > > > > https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle > > > > At the start of new year 2027, we could start a discussion of upgrading > the > > server from Ubuntu 22.04 to Ubuntu 24.04. > > > > Next few months will give us some time to have better applications(Docker > > container bases and internal applications that depend on specific library > > versions) compatibility with Ubuntu 24.04. > > > > Let's see what others say about it. > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > Kind Regards, > > Ashish Vijaywargiya > > Vice President of Operations > > *HotWax Systems* > > *Enterprise open source experts* > > http://www.hotwaxsystems.com > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 5:24 PM Jacques Le Roux < > > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > > > > > Following what I wrote "then" at bottom of > > > https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-tools/tree/master/demo-backup/Attic > > > ie "sudo certbot renew", I got: > > > > > > << > > > jleroux@ofbiz-vm1:~$ sudo certbot renew > > > otp-md5 372 of4769 > > > Password: > > > Saving debug log to /var/log/letsencrypt/letsencrypt.log > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - > > > - - - - - > > > > > > No renewals were attempted. > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - > > > - - - - - > > > >> > > > > > > I'll ask Infra using the log where errors are logged and I get this > > trying > > > to update certbot: > > > > > > << > > > root@ofbiz-vm1:/home/jleroux# sudo apt install --only-upgrade > > certbot > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree > > > Reading state information... Done > > > certbot is already the newest version (0.40.0-1ubuntu0.1). > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded. > > > root@ofbiz-vm1:/home/jleroux# > > > >> > > > > > > Maybe we need to upgrade Ubuntu (currently 20.04.6 LTS) to latest LTS, > ie > > > 24.04... > > > > > > Jacques > > > > > > Le 29/07/2025 à 13:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > > > > Hi Omar, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the alert. It's actually all demos that are impacted (ie > > also > > > next and trunk). > > > > > > > > Some years ago we had to make the update manually. Since then it was > > > automated. I'll have a look and maybe alert Infra about that. > > > > > > > > Jacques > > > > > > > > Le 29/07/2025 à 08:53, Omar Abdullwahhab a écrit : > > > >> Hello dev community, > > > >> Please update the certificate for the demo stable site its expired > on > > > Jul > > > >> 26, > > > >> https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org > > > >> > > > >> Thank you > > >
