Hi all,

Since Apache Derby is now retired, it will no longer receive updates for
bug fixes or security issues.
For that reason, I think we should consider replacing Derby with another
embedded database for OFBiz’s out-of-the-box/demo setup.

Would anyone be willing to volunteer in either of these areas?
* researching and suggesting suitable alternative products that would fit
OFBiz well;
* implementing the switch once we agree on a direction.

As an alternative, we could also consider no longer shipping a bundled
database at all, and instead relying on Docker images to make demo
instances easy to start.
That would be a more significant change for users, so perhaps not something
for immediate adoption, but I think it is probably the right direction to
keep in mind for the future.

Thoughts?

Best,
Jacopo


On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 9:43 AM Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> FYI, not a problem IMO. It works as is.
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> -------- Message transféré --------
> Sujet :         Apache Derby is now retired
> Date :  Wed, 3 Dec 2025 09:38:15 -0800
> De :    Richard Hillegas <[email protected]>
> Répondre à :    [email protected]
> Pour :  [email protected]
>
>
>
> The DB PMC announces the retirement of its Derby sub-project, due to
> prolonged low activity. Derby is a small-footprint, pure-Java relational
> database. Derby runs embedded in a local application as well as
> client-server over a network. Databases can live on disk or in memory.
> Existing,
> official versions support JVMs from Java 1.3 up through Java 21. The
> development mainline builds and tests cleanly on Java 25.
>
> The project's resources remain available in a read-only state. This
> includes the website (https://db.apache.org/derby/), mailing lists, wiki
> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DERBY/FrontPage), Subversion
> repository, and JIRA bug tracker. Official distributions remain available
> on
> an as-is basis at https://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html.
>

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