I finally agree with most too (I mean I agree with Adrian's proposition and
Andrew's here). Having them on 2 screen was a Scott's
proposition that I agreed with because of the flexibility given by modern
browsers and their integrated tabs capabilities. But I can
imagine that some people, especially end users, would not like to use tabs or
even a modern browser (though they should to use
both). Then it's obviously not easier to use...
Just one point : I'm not sure it's good to have forms collapsed by default when
there are results. If we would really want to have
something like that, whe should at least have an indicator to let know the user
that the list is not empty.
Just my opinion, and BTW having a consensual standard usage will be great. I agree with the idea that we really need to standardise
our ways of doing things, even if there are only a few places still needing it in OFBiz ERP (thanks to widgets for instance)
Jacques
From: "Andrew Zeneski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I can agree with most except list results and the form should be rendered as
one screen. This is to make usage easier when the
user wants to change the search parameters. Having the form collapsed by
default when there are results is good.
Andrew
On May 30, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Adrian Crum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Getting back to this...
Here are the layout best practices discussed so far:
"In the case where items are being added to a list, it is preferable to have
the item data entry screen and the item list on
separate screens. If the two functions are incorporated into one screen, then
the item data entry screen should be above the
item list. In addition, the item data entry screen should be collapsible and
initially collapsed."
"If a Find Item screen has a form for search options, the search options form
should be above the list of items found. The list
of items found should display all items initially - giving the user the
ability to narrow the results via the search options
form."
Can we agree on these?
-Adrian
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
From: "Scott Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It looks nice but if we did that the user would lose the ability to refer
back to the list while entering data, I would prefer an expand/ collapse form
if we are going to keep them on the same page.
Yes I agree, but I really like the idea for the calendar (I can't propose it
for lookups are they are too much to be loaded
when lauching and the probability of use is far more low, but maybe one day,
when machines will be more powerful :D
Jacques
Regards
Scott
2008/5/24 Anil Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I think what David is suggesting is something like this
http://www.wildbit.com/demos/modalbox/
Regards
Anil Patel
On May 23, 2008, at 1:57 PM, David E Jones wrote:
I didn't say open a new window, I said either expand a hidden area or
popup using JavaScript within the window (ie over top of the list behind
it).
-David
On May 23, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
IMHO, we should avoid to overuse popping as opening a new window is time
consuming (especially in Firefox). This is currently a major inconvenience
for Lookups and Calendar for instance
Jacques
From: "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Since we're entering the world of using more javascript in the browser,
why not have the add form on the top but hidden by default with and Add
button of some sort that would cause the form to be shown? We could even
make it fancy and popup over top of the list form and have it go away after
submission with an update of the list behind it... without any page loads
even.
-David
On May 22, 2008, at 11:38 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
I would agree with that but personally I would prefer to see them on
completely different pages. If I wanted to be able to refer back to
the
list while adding I would ctrl+click and then ctrl+tab to flick back
and
forth, that's what makes tabbed browsers so handy. One of the
problems with
having them on the same page is that any errors after adding would be
displayed before the list while the add form would be way down the
bottom.
Regards
Scott
2008/5/23 David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On May 22, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
2) If a screen has a list and add form, what should be the order of
these
forms (I have seen in your recent work that add form should come on
top
and
I completely
agree with this).
I believe the form should be on top of the list. Otherwise, as you
add
items to the list, the form is scrolled off the bottom of the
screen.
The main question is: what is going to be used more? Will it be the
list or
the add form?
If in most cases it will be the list, and if you have to scroll down
every
time to see it... that's a pain.
-David
