On 20/10/2010, at 12:50 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > Scott Gray sent the following on 10/19/2010 2:29 PM: >> On 20/10/2010, at 3:31 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> I would like to balance that with the ability to modify code as need >>> arises. especially when doing vertical markets. >> >> Your ability to modify the source code is not diminished, if you really want >> to you just download the quartz open source and recompile it with your mods. >> >>> One of the reasons I don't like Opentaps is I have to learn all these >>> outside systems besides what is in ofbiz. >> >> That is an example of technology bloat, which is different from what I'm >> suggesting here. OFBiz is going to have a job manager whether it is our >> code or someone else's doesn't reduce the need to learn it. Quartz does >> however offer better documentation and learning it has a good chance of >> being useful for non-OFBiz projects. > >> >>> Seems to me we have a project manager that would fit into this. >> >> You lost me here. > > there is two ways to go > 1) you can implement the project manager to create Jobs and monitor the > progress based on estimated. Once the Job goes out of spec the project > manager can show the best way to make a decision on how to get back on track > and create the jobs to do that. > This is part of ERP where Positions are created for HR, through the Work > effort. > Since we have the frame work for production runs this would take less design > and integration time in my opinion. > > 2)when Jobs are created they create a Project that can be tracked as in #1.
I think you're misunderstanding what the JobManager and Quartz Scheduler do. This discussion is about managing persisted async service calls i.e. low level framework stuff. > >> >>> as a matter of fact that was my goal years ago, on integrating an GNATT >>> project into ofbiz. Problem was it used SWT. >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Michael Xu (xudong) sent the following on 10/17/2010 6:45 PM: >>>> hi Scott, >>>> >>>> I don't know much about Quartz. But I really think it is the correct >>>> direction to migrate home-grown codes to mature third party solution or >>>> separate mature ofbiz components as standalone framework. As such, we can >>>> focus on value creation and furthermore it might help attract more >>>> developers to join. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Scott >>>> Gray<[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I was looking at the Quartz Scheduler project (www.quartz-scheduler.org) >>>>> over the weekend and it looks like it could be a good fit for OFBiz. We >>>>> ran >>>>> into some issues with the scheduled service code in OFBiz recently where a >>>>> heavy server load would cause all sorts of strangeness (multiple >>>>> reschedules >>>>> for a single failed job, inability to purge old jobs before a timeout, >>>>> those >>>>> two combined eventually bringing the server to its knees), and my options >>>>> are to either find and fix the problem(s) or replace the scheduler with an >>>>> external solution. >>>>> >>>>> I've only had a brief look but it appears like quartz is pretty extensible >>>>> and would allow us to continue to support things like temporal expressions >>>>> (and the deprecated recurrence infos) and could probably increase the >>>>> number >>>>> of scheduling features available to OFBiz. It's ASL2 licensed and seems >>>>> to >>>>> be pretty mature. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any experience with quartz to share? Opinions or other >>>>> possible alternatives would be most welcome. I'm not looking to implement >>>>> anything anytime soon but figured we may as well start discussing it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
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