David,

We are interested in this project.  Let us know the best way to start
playing with the framework and see how we could use it.  We do a lot of
custom applications and moqui sounds like a framework that could be used for
this.


Thanks again for your efforts.


Brett

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM, David E Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I still don't know if or how all of this will turn out, but here is the
> latest on the changes I've been wanting to make in the OFBiz Framework, but
> gave up on doing directly in OFBiz about a year and a half ago. The
> redesigned framework is a separate project that is now in beta (I just did
> the release today):
>
> http://www.moqui.org/
>
> The Moqui Framework is now feature-complete for the planned feature set of
> the 1.0 version. There are details about this in the release notes,
> including everything in this release and the previous 3 releases, plus a
> list of features not to be included in 1.0.
>
> At this point the framework is far enough along that it is a clear
> demonstration of the changes that I would like to see in OFBiz, but that are
> difficult to do in a project with such a mature community and a large set of
> software that depends on it. Some of the main things are how the security
> and authorization are done, how the API is organized, the separation between
> framework and non-framework runtime artifacts, the deployment model
> (described in detail in the RunDeploy.txt file in the project), the way
> templates are used for simple-methods (XML Actions in Moqui) and the
> form/screen/etc widgets (XML Screens, Forms in Moqui), and how the web
> "controller" in OFBiz could be combined with screens and made hierarchical
> to introduce a lot of flexibility and far better organization of
> applications (less files open, easier to find things, automatic menu
> creation, per-used menu items/subscreens, and much more).
>
> Now that the beta is out the next step is to start building more real-world
> applications with it (so far the framework just has an example app and some
> basic tools built on it), and those will act as test cases as well. I don't
> have any intention to create another project like OFBiz that is a
> comprehensive ERP/CRM/etc/etc/etc system, and instead I'm hoping those will
> be separate project.
>
> However, I am working on a project to act as a basis for various
> applications that will share the same data model, common services, and
> derive from a common set of stories too. This project is called "Mantle". To
> see how this all fits together, check out the home page on the moqui.orgsite 
> which has a diagram that includes these things. There is also a link to
> the github repository that has the Mantle UDM (Universal Data Model)
> progress so far.
>
> Back to the first comment: I don't know all of this will turn out. In a way
> it would be interesting to have OFBiz migrate to use these things, but that
> may not be of interest to very many in the community, so I won't be too
> surprised if that never happens. I've already heard from a couple of people
> who have proposed this idea, and I know some others would probably be very
> against it.
>
> On the other hand, if anyone is curious about such a thing, now it's
> possible to get an idea of what it might look like by look at the Moqui
> Framework and the example application and such.
>
> -David
>
>
>

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