From: "David E Jones" <[email protected]>
Jacques,
Why do you recommend requesting changes in comments?
http://markmail.org/message/iadu3l57gkb22lkf :p
There is no way to track them there, and a good chance fewer people (or no one)
will notice them.
You may use Confluence for that see
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/users/viewnotifications.action
We also have a license granting issue which is better through Jira, though
technically not required (ie for legal something over a
mailing list, and perhaps in a comment, is okay but Jira has an explicit
contribution thingy).
I'm not sure what you meant by what you wrote here, but it is very different
from what I wrote and it sounded like you were saying
it was the same as what I wrote.
Paul: I apologize for the confusion, quite frankly there aren't many
contributions for the restricted spaces in Confluence, and as
you can see there is not a consensus or even a meeting of the minds about how
to handle it. I'd still recommend a Jira issue if
you want to make sure your changes get tracked and don't slip through the
cracks. Email and comments get lost a lot easier, and
don't get seen by as many committers (especially if sent directly to a couple
of people instead of to the mailing list). Comments
are the same way, I don't know how many (if any) committers have notifications
setup for all comments, I certainly don't.
I have :o) And I follow it closely from the moment you gave me the rights for
that (some years ago). Actually I act as a sort of
Confluence moderator, and I do it seriously. Conflucen comments advantage:
Confluence formatting, a simple C/P and voilà. Still the
delegate and KISS way: as you said license granting is not required .
Jacques
-David
On May 4, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Though it has already been explained recently but shortly by David (I think
it's explained in the wiki somewhere also), the
established practise for Confluence (we call Wiki the open pages) is to suggest
your changes in a comment at bottom of the page
to
change. You can even use Confluence formatting there. It's not more work for
you and sligthly for us (we would have to review
changes anyway).
Jacques
PS: Paul, I have just received your documents, please follow the procedure
above rather. Note that I want to keep the same
structure, ie have you an image for Sharan's book?
From: "David E Jones" <[email protected]>
The best procedure to submit contributions is the same as for code, ie create a
Jira issue.
Also, note that the same process as for code is used for Confluence. If someone
starts contributing a lot of content they will
be
invited to have permissions to do it directly.
-David
On May 3, 2011, at 10:03 PM, Paul Foxworthy wrote:
OK, I've sent what I'm thinking of to David and Jacques.
I can see that project policy and planning needs governance and while
everyone can contribute their own opinions on the mailing list, the project
administration wiki should represent consensus and conclusions.
I suggest this is not in that category. Code needs to be 100% right or we
have a broken system that nobody can use. A wiki page only needs to be 90%
right, and if it exists and it is 90% right, people will quickly correct the
last 10%. That is, if they have access to it.
Isn't the books page an example of something that core contributors should
be able to ignore?
If nobody agrees with me, please give a clear statement of what the
procedure is to submit proposed changes to the OFBADMIN wiki.
Cheers
Paul Foxworthy
David E Jones-4 wrote:
The point of having that page in a restricted space is to reduce quantity
and increase quality, just like having a limited group of committers for
the OFBiz source code instead of allowing anyone and everyone to commit.
Whether or not that is the result is another questions, but here we are...
The better approach would be for Paul to send over proposed changes and
someone with permission can update the page.
-David
On Apr 27, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi Paul,
Though I agree it could be done, since I'm anyway monitoring and checking
all changes in the wiki, this is not a decision I should take on my own.
So I forward on dev ML to ask the same... I think we will get a
consensus...
Thanks
Jacques
----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Foxworthy
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:05 AM
Subject: Please move Ofbiz books page from OFBADMIN to OFBIZ wiki
Hi Jacques,
I see Ruth Hofffman has published an e-book on Ofbiz accounting. I
wanted to put it on the wiki, but I can't edit pages in the OFBADMIN
wiki. Please move
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books
and its images to the general OFBIZ wiki. Then people like me will be
able to work on it.
Thanks
Paul Foxworthy
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