On 7/27/2012 8:43 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
On 07/27/2012 02:33 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
A sales order includes products, but a sales order is not a product.
A job interview might include communication events, but a job
interview is not a communication event.
Using your logic, a sales order should be a communication event -
because it records a contact between a buyer and a seller.
If you don't understand the data model, then you shouldn't change it.
thank you Adrian, for the nice and polite conversation, this could be
the reason we cannot get other committers than just framework
programmers for whom the communication via this medium could be improved.
Hans,
I apologize for the terse response and waving you off. I was feeling a
bit frustrated by this thread - not because of the conversation
contained in it, but because of the history of you asking for advice,
and when that advice is given, you argue against it.
I wasn't trying to appear superior. My response was based on the simple
idea of closing your eyes and picturing the job interview process. If
you take the time to do that, it should be obvious that the process may
include a number of communication events, but is not itself a
communication event. If you can't picture that, then maybe it's best to
just leave the model alone.
I'm not a data modelling expert, but I do manage to get models right
most of the time. When I get it wrong, I will be the first one to point
it out. There are other areas of development that I am not skilled in.
In those I cases I simply follow the advice of others and trust they are
leading me in the right direction.
From my perspective, the developer community is composed of skilled
analysts, architects, programmers, etc - but I don't believe any one
person is all of those things. If the individuals in the developer
community see things that way, then consequently there is an
acknowledgement that there are some things we as individuals don't know
or understand. Some people believe that kind of acknowledgement is a
sign of weakness, but I see it as the beginning of wisdom.
-Adrian
