Hi every body,

I feel the duty to participate to this discussion even that I think that e-amil
may not be the best way for discussion like this one and that distance get
things more complicated.

If anyone find that some words are inappropriate, non constructive or hurtful, be sure that is not volunteer and it may be explained by the weakness of our English, me first.

Be sure also that we are relaxed and feel very involved by ofbiz future
and has no goal except enrich discussion and will note manage our possible to do that.


I personally have the feeling that ofbiz PCM get more and more isolated and
disconnected form the reality for some reasons :
-Jacopo argue a contribution refusal because non one of the community ! does he forgot that we (neogia team) belongs to the community and we have dozen of customer that do too. or the
     community means PMC members only?
-what is the main role of the community, except that it should influence PCM choices? You should, as PMC member, take the community request into consideration ! -we all know how the ofbiz framework is great and well built, but the ofbiz does not take off, whey? I explain that by the fact that ofbiz PCM choices get disconnected from the end users expectations
         and needs and all what count is that pmc team consideration.

-PMC members reactivity decreases dramatically giving external observers the feeling that they have no more the same motivation and no more involved by the project life ! -Is it normal that there where no enough PMC members at last apache conf ? i don't think so.

It should be that we (neogia or nereide team) don't have anything to blame for the ofbiz
PMC members we consider theme as necessary.

Regards,
Youssef.

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