> Moqui copies problems from our existing framework, I want to fix them.
You'd probably need to go into more detail on that, if I'm not mistaken Moqui's intention was to do the opposite. Personally I don't think you're going to get much support for a full framework rewrite, initially at least, because you're describing potentially years of effort using a short wiki document. When there's something more tangible to digest then at least there would be something to discuss. I'd suggest some sort of proof of concept in github or some design/api documentation before creating a branch, you need more support before undertaking it within this project IMO. I don't agree with the premise that the framework needs to be completely rewritten, at least not until there's a solid discussion about the actual issues that need to be fixed. Regards Scott On 19/01/2014, at 1:27 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: > Using Moqui was suggested in the links I posted, but no one has done anything > about it. > > Like I said, "The goal would be to start over from scratch - using sound > design principles and the lessons learned from the current code." Moqui > copies problems from our existing framework, I want to fix them. > > > Adrian Crum > Sandglass Software > www.sandglass-software.com > > On 1/18/2014 8:26 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: >> Adrian, >> >> My position is that OFBiz will probably last another 10-20 years and i >> am not in favor of big changes in the OFBiz framework and certainly are >> against replacing it unless it is Moqui. When i think the Moqui >> framework is ready to take over, we will slowly move GrowERP and our >> customers using OFBiz to using Moqui. >> >> I think it would be really a pity if you start your own framework, I >> would suggest to work together with David and join forces. Getting a new >> framework into the market will be really hard work and competing with >> Moqui you sure will get a difficult time. We from AntWebsystems >> certainly will help in the Mantle/Moqui development in the next few years >> >> Regards, >> Hans >> >> On 19/01/14 04:11, Adrian Crum wrote: >>> Some years ago we engaged in a discussion about rewriting the OFBiz >>> framework: >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/201203.mbox/%[email protected]%3E >>> >>> >>> Then a suggestion was made to base OFBiz on the Moqui framework: >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/201203.mbox/%[email protected]%3E >>> >>> >>> Since those discussions, progress has been made in rewriting bits and >>> pieces of the framework, but no one has tackled replacing the >>> framework entirely. I am ready to begin that effort. >>> >>> My preference would be to create a branch and start building things >>> out there - with the help of others. The goal would be to start over >>> from scratch - using sound design principles and the lessons learned >>> from the current code. >>> >>> If there is support for this effort, then I can begin working on it in >>> February. If not, then I will most likely start a separate project - >>> similar to the approach taken by Moqui. >>> >>> I created a design document: >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Another+Framework+Vision >>> >>> >>> It is in the draft stage. Comments and suggestions are welcome. >>> >>
