To all, Thank you all for contributing to this discussion. I guess that, in light of the title of this thread, a lot must be said by many to express their feelings about what they think is wrong in this project. Such as: PMC members feel that contributors don't do enough, that contributors don't know what the principles of the ASF are, that contributors don't know how the ASF works, that contributors don't follow their (the PMC's) dictates/dogma/doctrine, that contributors do stuff that they (the PMC members) are affronted by. But also: contributors feel that the PMC does a bad job at recognizing merit, that PMC members minimize their ( the contributors) contributions, that PMC members don't engage that much anymore in collaboration with other community members, that our VP is good at producing overviews of interactions of certain contributors when he feels he must point out that the contributor is bad for this project and to put these persons back in the submissive role he believes they deserve, that our VP (and PMC) doesn't do a good job at producing overviews of interactions between community members in order to show that they do a good job at contributing to this project.
And we all can go one and on pointing fingers where the other(s) is/are wrong. No matter what all of us pile on to that, it won't convince anybody that everything is neat and dandy in this project (in other words this community is collaborating in furthering the project by building the community and improving/innovating its output). On the contrary. If we accept that things are not good in this community, we can start working on that. And we need to make that our prime objective (as the ASF has in its principles: community over code), before we can get back to collaborating in improving that other output of this project. I welcome the suggestion made by David to have each of us explain our own motive for participating in this project. So, what is your personal mission statement with respect to your involvement in this project? But I suggest to expand that with: what do you feel the responsibilities are that come with the privileges of the roles in this project? Because if we don't understand from each other how the other sees how his own participation and his own responsibilities (in light of the role - and its privileges - he has), how can we accept that and build from there... Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
