Le 22/09/2014 06:50, Ashish Vijaywargiya a écrit :
I wonder if we should not face the reality. Even during large efforts
like HWM Bugs Crush, we don't/can't backport all bug fixes.
I think we should make that clear and expose a way to users for them to
more "easily" maintain the releases they use. I feel that with the help of
the Jira changes logs reports (thanks Jacopo) this should be possible. I
don't think at an automated way, just a process for users to follow.

I liked this option and yes if does exists inside download page then that
will be of great help. This will encourage end users to help PMC/Committer
to manage release branches.

Hello Ron, Jacques,

Please wait for couple of weeks, I will try my best to back port all the
necessary changes to Release 12.04. Thanks.
This is great to hear Ashish. Unfortunately, like mine, your effort will not be 
enough.
As Ron continued on this, we need to clearly define a policy to apply and stick 
with it

Jacques


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Kind Regards,
Ashish VIjaywargiya


On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[email protected]> wrote:

I understand your point of view and I even tend to agree with.

For the moment I still personally try to backport on all maintained
branches (those having releases pending). Most of the time it's
straightforward, but I got bitten once or two by wrong backports which
created new bugs that I had to fix.

Still, though it's better now with Jira changes logs reports, the problem
is not everybody is aware of bug fixes backported or not.
The official download page http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html, says
that we stabilize releases with bug fixes. It's not quite clear if we are
backporting all or only some bug fixes.

I wonder if we should not face the reality. Even during large efforts like
HWM Bugs Crush, we don't/can't backport all bug fixes.
I think we should make that clear and expose a way to users for them to
more "easily" maintain the releases they use. I feel that with the help of
the Jira changes logs reports (thanks Jacopo) this should be possible. I
don't think at an automated way, just a process for users to follow.

Jacques

Le 20/09/2014 18:47, Adrian Crum a écrit :

  I don't have time to maintain 4 code bases (trunk + 3 branches). I will
fix things in the trunk, and I will backport those fixes to the most recent
branch. I have no interest in older branches. If someone else is using
them, then they can create a patch for them. So, I have no issues with
releasing old branches with missing fixes - because if anyone really cared
about them they would work harder to maintain them.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 9/20/2014 5:29 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

It seems a bit weird to me to officially release code with bugs when we
have already bug fixes in trunk

Jacques

Le 20/09/2014 17:17, Adrian Crum a écrit :

 From my perspective, anyone wanting to use older versions can backport
the changes themselves - either locally, or in the release branches by
providing a patch.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 9/20/2014 4:07 PM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:

Hello Jacques,

Thanks for your kind words. We started this event considering the fact
to provide fixes for trunk and latest release branch which is 13.07. It
will be of great help if someone from community could pick and back
port
the required changes to Release Branch 12.04. In future if we get time
we will also be taking care of back porting to R12.04.

We didn't back port changes in R11.04 just because it is very old
branch
and very soon will not be maintained. Thanks.

--
Kind Regards
Ashish Vijaywargiya
HotWax Media - est. 1997
ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
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On Saturday 20 September 2014 05:01 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Le 20/09/2014 13:28, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Hi,

It's great to see a second Bug Crush effort!

I have though a question, I see that you (HotWax Media team) only
backport bug fixes to the R13 branch.
I guess it's intended, so why?

I ask this because I already found myself trying to fix issues in R12
and R11 branches (I know will be soon no longer maintained R11 ) and
found they were already backported in R13

Jacques




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