Sharan, 

I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think that's really the
discussion. Everybody (myself including) can be blamed for cross-promotion
of his own work. I have no problem with that, unless it gets out of hand.
However, I think a bit of an honesty in an open source community like this
should always be in place: When there are events done by companies to
promote themselves and their services, then it is simply dishonest to claim
that they are community driven projects. It takes away from the Apache brand
and makes the community look a lot weaker than it really is. 

This has nothing to do with the promotional aspect itself. I have no doubts
that I am guilty of also naming scipioerp, too. I do that, because in my eye
it is beneficial for other parties to rely on third party providers to have
somebody accountable for a product. This community cannot provide the
services itself or deliver a product that is entirely up to standards ootb
(hence the focus on being a framework), so it is a mutually beneficial
agreement. I therefore have no problems with hotwax promoting their services
either.

I do have to point out, however, that there is a distinction between the
community and a third party provider. One is not the other and does not
speak or represent the other. Like I mentioned, the hotwax event was just
that: a hotwax event with the intention to spark interest in hotwax
services. Telling us otherwise is a dishonesty this community does not
deserve.

Regards,
Paul



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