That would be good, I know we can do a lot with form widgets backed by js 
scripts and I'm always been a form widgets enthusiast (if not fanatic :D).

But there should be also a way to allow to call FTL from screens because, in an ecommerce alike situation, it's not realistic to do it all with form widgets (at least as is now). Could be allowed on certain component for instance or using properties.


Le 01/12/2016 à 09:56, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
I think by introducing a new DSL we can enforce no leakage of HTML / FTL
into any widgets (I'm assuming this is what you guys are talking about)

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux <> wrote:

Nicely said, thanks Julien :)


Le 01/12/2016 à 09:46, Julien NICOLAS a écrit :

Hi Pierre,

I hope that, like code source convention, people will respect the work
done and respect people behind them.

I think that I'll do my best to explain the reason of the work I'll
begin, hope that it will be accepted by the community, hope that it will be
implemented in all OFBiz screens. I know that the OFBiz community are good
people and respect that.

But you true, it could happens that somebody fail to follow rules, I hope
I see it in code review and ask for an update ;)

I'm quite sure that when you'll be charmed by this UI standard, you'll be
also a rules keeper <3

Have a nice day,


On 30/11/2016 21:16, Pierre Smits wrote:

So when you speak of

a super-structure that will be used in place of currently conventions
are not always respected

how do you envision that with that new 'super-structure' conventions will
be respected?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Jacques Le Roux <> wrote:

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Le 30/11/2016 à 10:02, Julien NICOLAS a écrit :

Hi Jacques,

On 30/11/2016 08:51, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

   - Each screen must be linked to a screen structure.
What would be this screen structure? You don't need to develop much at
this stage, just that I can't vision what it would be.

This structure is to follow the a UI standard that can be managed by
theme. For example, the find screen can be define as :
   - A research field area
   - A result area

Ah, I see, we have already this concept in screen widget.

If all the find screen could be linked to this structure, it will be
easier for theme to manage it's own template of search screen.

You mean that it would be a super-structure that will be used in place
currently conventions which are not always respected, I see.

It will be included in the main decorator that will also linked to a

structure, so theme can manage to change the template. And when you
the theme, it could be a completely different look and feel :)
I hope I explain well my thought.

Got it, thanks :)

Why we need a new component to test new theme ?
When I start working with OFBiz, I was so surprised that the UI is
heavy. Then I was thinking that I have to improve the UI to provide
a best
one. After several try I understand that the actual UI is not a
final user
interface. It is a developer one. It's a developer UI because it
all the features developed. But definitively, we can't provide this
kind of
UI to final users, we have to simplify it. In the same times, we
delete the current UI because developers need to improve it with new
features that will help us to deploy new features to our final users.

For this new component, we can implement an existing component but
simplified and ready for the new theme(s).

You mean we could take and existing component, say example for
and would simply it at the UI level. I picked example because it's
rather simple and contains demonstration of features.

No, I mean to define a component (party, product, facility, etc.)
that we
start to re-implement (using the existing services) but in a more
way (without all the features, selecting only the main ones).

I see

In conclusion, if the new component dedicated for test a new theme
match to the community needs, Taher think to a super simplified
user interface that facilitate developers to improve the software. A
interface without any constraint that allow developers to develop
new features.

Another thing I can't vision at this stage, no hurry, I guess I'll

Yes, too many thing to explain, I have to add details about this
I'll do it soon ^^

I did not get a chance to look yet at the POC Nicolas, Gil and you are
working on. I guess I'd get the ideas from there then?



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