Hi together, IMHO the Odata community can also discuss about naming and give suggestions but at the end the decision has to be on the "Olingo Dev Mailinglist <[email protected]>" by the PMC Members.
To the naming, I like it to have all libraries within Apache Olingo the "Olingo" part in their name which is the case for "Olingo.JS". But I can understand and agree with the argument that if someone search for "odata javascript" he would find better results if the name is "OData.JS". Beside of the points above, the trademark for "Olingo" is owned by Apache but who owns the trademark for "OData"? Could we name it "OData.JS" without getting trouble about the trademark? Kind regards, Michael On 24.07.14 12:05, "Mark Stafford" <[email protected]> wrote: >This seems reasonable and it was on my to-read list so thanks for pushing >on the issue. I think those rules probably work very well for most Apache >projects and will probably work very well for the vast majority of the >issues the Olingo community will be voting on. But we need to remember >that this is a reasonably unique project. It is part of a much larger >community. We obviously will not be blogging on odata.org about code >changes in these libraries. But for meta questions I think it absolutely >makes sense to ask the larger community. This would include things like >names, moving projects around, relative priorities of projects, etc. > >Thanks, >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Klevenz, Stephan [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:49 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Java Script library Name voting result > >Hi all, > >Please have a look at [1] so that we have a common understanding of the >Apache voting process. > >I don't want to stress this to much. We are having a healthy discussion >and I am pretty sure that we get a consensus. After that we can do a new >vote. > >Regards, >Stephan > >[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > > > > >On 24.07.14 10:29, "Mark Stafford" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>I'm not asking us to exclude [email protected], just asking to >>include a larger community. As far as I can tell there's less than 20 >>members on this mailing list and most of us work for Microsoft or SAP >>so it's not a good place to get feedback on something as visible as the >>name of the library. By contrast odata.org had 61,000 unique visitors in >>June. >>We certainly won't get responses from that many people, but I'd hope we >>can get a voting result that includes more than six votes from two >>companies. That's not a very representative sample. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kobler-Morris, Sven [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:02 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Java Script library Name voting result >> >>Hello Mark, >> >>think it is best if discussion took place on [email protected], >>otherwise we have so sync the discussion between mailing >>list/blog/forum >> >>On http://olingo.apache.org/support.html is information of how to join >>[email protected]. Any interested developer can join. >> >>Regards, >>Sven >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Stafford [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2014 09:56 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Java Script library Name voting result >> >>Thanks Sven! Ideally we should consider getting input from the larger >>OData community. The current Olingo community is mostly composed of >>members of the TC, which I think biases the discussion somewhat. Is >>there a way to extend the call for input to the full OData community? >>Maybe we could put a blog post up on OData.org and send a mail to the >>main OData DL? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kobler-Morris, Sven [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:30 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Java Script library Name voting result >> >>Hi all, >> >>this seems to be a valid point. So I cancelled the vote and we can do >>further discussions on this. >>From my current point of view ODataJS makes also sense as a name >>because it is more releated to "OData" then "Olingo" and will show >>better up in Search results ( as Yi mentioned). >> >>So please free discuss this here. There will be a new Vote on this >>after the discussion. >> >>regards, >>Sven >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Yi Ding [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2014 08:20 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Java Script library Name voting result >> >>Hi all, >> >>I would propose that we reconsider using the name OData.JS or ODataJS. >>OlingoJS certainly got majority of the votes but the number of votes is >>small (only 6 votes). >> >>This JavaScript client library for OData is the core client library for >>JavaScript mainly developed by sponsors of the TC of OASIS for OData >>(at least this first version), so it qualifies as an official >>JavaScript library of OData. Having OData.JS or ODataJS as its name >>will vastly increase the possibility that users will turn to our >>library as the first choice when he searches on the internet for "OData >>JavaScript library" >>and names like "OData.js", "Breeze.js", "JayData", etc. show up at the >>same time. Using OlingoJS will likely to cause brand dilution. Apache >>Olingo as the project name is totally respected but having OData as >>part of the library name would also be very beneficial. >> >>It would be really helpful if people voted on OlingoJS can shed light >>on your reasons for this choice so that we can discuss about it. >> >>Best, >>Yi >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kobler-Morris, Sven [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:02 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Java Script library Name voting result >> >>Hi, >> >>for the name the majority is for "OlingoJS". >> >>So we use OlingoJS as name. >> >>Regards, >>Sven >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: V.A, Chandan [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Montag, 21. Juli 2014 14:32 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: [VOTE] Java Script library Name >> >>OlingoJS +1 >> >>Thanks, >>Kind Regards >>Chandan VA >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kobler-Morris, Sven [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:19 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [VOTE] Java Script library Name >> >>Hi all, >> >>below is a list of collected names for the Java Script OData client >>library which makes sense from our point of view. For voting please ad >>a >>+1 behind your favorite choice. >> >>1. datajs >>2. OlingoJS >> >>3. ODataJS >> >>4. Olingo.OData.JS >> >> >>regards, >>Sven >
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