Interesting OK. B/c the more containers for me on my local laptop 
typically eat up way more memory and CPU…but maybe that’s just
me on a Mac lol

 

 

 

 

From: Tom Barber <t...@spicule.co.uk>
Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 9:44 AM
To: Imesha Sudasingha <imesha...@cse.mrt.ac.lk>, Chris Mattmann 
<mattm...@apache.org>
Cc: dev <dev@oodt.apache.org>
Subject: Re: OODT docker builds

 

Not at all and if you want to run OODT on Kubernetes for example, that

would be how you’d do it, that way you can upgrade, scale, restart and fail

components without the entire stack falling over.

 

In terms of disk space, don’t forget each image is built on layers, so for

example, openjdk-8 on alpine is 56mb, that layer would then be used across

all base images so its only installed once on each host, then you’ve got

your file manager for example which would check in currently at 62MB, so

the entire image size would be 118MB which you could then deploy on 1 node,

or 100 nodes.

 

Then say you’ve got opsui as another dependency, that would be

 

tomcat:8 (463mb)+ opsui(73mb)==536mb

 

But say you have no interest in workflow etc, thats all you’d deploy.

 

In reality it would be much more flexible and much more inline with how

docker containers should be deployed,  which is as a single process

container not as a bunch of processes all stuck into 1 unit.

 

 

 

 

 

On 15 October 2018 at 17:32:32, Chris Mattmann (mattm...@apache.org) wrote:

 

Isn’t an image per component really heavyweight?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*From: *Tom Barber <t...@spicule.co.uk>

*Date: *Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:26 AM

*To: *Imesha Sudasingha <imesha...@cse.mrt.ac.lk>

*Cc: *dev <dev@oodt.apache.org>, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>

*Subject: *Re: OODT docker builds

 

 

 

Why aren’t we doing so?! :)

 

 

 

Lack of cycles and young kids ;)

 

 

 

I’ll take a stab at it and see where we get to outside of RADIX to get the

stack in distinct containers and then we’ll look at integrating it into the

main build then.

 

 

 

 

 

Tom

 

 

 

On 15 October 2018 at 13:07:56, Imesha Sudasingha (imesha...@cse.mrt.ac.lk)

wrote:

 

Yes. Agree with you. That is something I have been planning to ask you for

long; why aren't we doing so.

 

I like the idea of having a docker image per component and as you suggested

we can create docker-compose

 

or kubernetes setup for deployments. I like that direction ;-)

 

 

 

As an starting point, we can add an all-in-one docker image to be built in

the RADIX build, right?

 

If you start off, I will be able to join you along the way.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Imesha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 16:33, Tom Barber <t...@spicule.co.uk> wrote:

 

I was thinking about the outputs. Currently everything is 1 docker file

which is fine for some deployments and not for others.

 

 

 

In the RADIX build we should also build individual containers for each

component. For the deployment we could also have a docker-compose file and

a K8S Helm setup so that you could deploy a distributed OODT setup from

your RADIX output, this could also have the ZK stuff in it so we can

properly utilise the distributed nature we started constructing with the FM

ZK changes.

 

 

 

 

 

On 15 October 2018 at 05:08:41, Imesha Sudasingha (imesha...@cse.mrt.ac.lk)

wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think this will be great since people are adopting docker more and more

and even for a user

once they have built a customized docker image, they can share it among the

peers

reducing the time spent for configuration by each individual.

 

Also we have another option ;-) With distributed configuration management

which I implemented,

users can ask OODT components to download configuration published in

zookeeper. But this will

require zookeeper to be running (either as a container or standalone). As

per my understanding,

configuration is the problem we need to solve when using a pre-built docker

image?

 

In future, if we are able to implement

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-977

we will be able to run multiple file managers in multiple containers which

will allow

the load to be distributed and query all at once. So, docker will be the

way to go as I see it.

What do you think?

 

Thanks,

Imesha

 

 

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 15:40, Tom Barber <t...@spicule.co.uk> wrote:

 

I’m interested in the Dockerization of OODT but also conscious that most

people use RADIX to build their stuff, which make’s overriding bits of a

prebuilt image tricky.

 

I’m wondering if its worth adding an optional Docker profile to RADIX to

add a Docker build step to the backend of people’s RADIX builds if they so

wanted.

 

Thoughts?

 

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