Hmm, not exactly what i expected but it should work, not just as
transparent and integrated as i thought.

The end of the dependency mess is still key for me and only this jar can
justify the scope compile you spoke about, all G one should be provides
IMHO.

Dont think osgi is a blocker while you dont put it in the karaf feature.

So tempted to say you can finish the pr.

Le mar. 17 déc. 2019 à 07:06, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> This is part of MANIFEST.MF
>
> Bundle-ManifestVersion: 2
> Bundle-Vendor: Eclipse.org - EclipseLink Project
> Require-Capability: osgi.ee; filter:="(&(osgi.ee=JavaSE)(version>=1.8)
>  )"
> Import-Package: javax.sql;resolution:=optional,org.osgi.framework;reso
>  lution:=optional,org.osgi.service.jpa;version="1.1.0"
> Implementation-Vendor: Eclipse.org - EclipseLink Project
> Export-Package: javax.persistence;jpa="2.2";version="2.2.3",javax.pers
>  istence.criteria;jpa="2.2";version="2.2.3",javax.persistence.metamode
>  l;jpa="2.2";version="2.2.3",javax.persistence.spi;jpa="2.2";version="
>  2.2.3",org.osgi.service.jpa;version="1.1.0"
> Bundle-Name: Jakarta Persistence API 2.2
> Bundle-Version: 2.2.3
> Bundle-ClassPath: .
> Bundle-Activator: org.eclipse.persistence.javax.persistence.osgi.Activ
>  ator
>
> I was unable to find "Provide-Capability" in the jar (but maybe I was
> looking in wrong place ...)
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 12:58, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm, looks like old style, doesnt it have Provide-Capability somewhere
> > (sorry i dont have a computer handy right now)?
> > Maybe reopen a thread @g Mark if you want to do that, but we should also
> > include micrporofile in that thread to enforce our consistence IMHO.
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mar. 17 déc. 2019 à 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > I'm not familiar with OSGI
> > > jakarta.jas has `Activator implements
> org.osgi.framework.BundleActivator`
> > > and `OSGiProviderResolver implements PersistenceProviderResolver,
> > > PersistenceProvider`
> > >
> > > Please let me know if I should proceed with my PR, or if it would be
> > > better to dismiss it :)
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 04:42, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Le lun. 16 déc. 2019 à 22:13, Mark Struberg
> <[email protected]>
> > > a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > jakarta persistence is EPL. It's not a problem to add it but would
> > > love to
> > > > > avoid it.
> > > > > The simplest way would be to add those module information to
> > > Geronimo-jpa.
> > > > > Could do a mass release of those specs then.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We should stick to a single strategy for all spec jars with a
> compatible
> > > > license IMHO.
> > > > I dont care which way we go but I dont want a case by case choice
> which
> > > > would be hard to support.
> > > >
> > > > Also having jakarta deps will reduce dependency management for post
> users
> > > > so i see it as a 60-40 for jakata.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > LieGrue,
> > > > > strub
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Am 16.12.2019 um 14:39 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > [email protected]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the diff
> > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/openjpa/compare/OPENJPA-2798-java11-friendly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:38, Maxim Solodovnik <
> [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Current status: In my branch I have changed jpa_spec with
> > > > > >> jakarta.persistence and the build is green
> > > > > >> I can drop this branch if there is better way to achieve java11
> > > > > compatibility :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I always thought modules is like dependencies
> > > > > >> I only have openjpa dependency right now and do have all
> transitive
> > > > > >> jars available, so my pom is cleaner ...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:32, Mark Struberg
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm not sure what the status is right now. But one of the big
> pros
> > > > > over the standard jpa api has always been that it works even with
> OSGi.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> LieGrue,
> > > > > >>> strub
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Am 16.12.2019 um 14:24 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > [email protected]>:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Not "compile time dependencies" but "spec jars". Mainly
> because
> > > the
> > > > > user
> > > > > >>>> must import it himself (this is what he use to code so it
> should
> > > be a
> > > > > first
> > > > > >>>> level dep + to avoid the exclusion mess since there are like
> 6-7
> > > spec
> > > > > jars
> > > > > >>>> libs use and conflict).
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > >>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > >>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > >>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > > > > >>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > >>>> <
> > > > >
> > >
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Le lun. 16 déc. 2019 à 14:15, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>> écrit :
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> BTW why compile time dependency should't be transitive?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:12, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> I can create PR in a minute (based on
> > > OPENJPA-2798-java11-friendly
> > > > > >>>>> branch)
> > > > > >>>>>> Was planning to add "Automatic-Module-Name"s to manifest
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:03, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Nobody uses it but adding them breaks apps ;), yeah.
> > > > > >>>>>>> Anyway openjpa shouldnt have jpa api transitive anyway
> IMHO so
> > > not
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>>> big
> > > > > >>>>>>> deal while we dont break OSGi case in the feature.xml.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > >>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > >>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > >>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > > > > >>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > >>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Le lun. 16 déc. 2019 à 13:52, Mark Struberg
> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>> a
> > > > > >>>>>>> écrit :
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> I'd go with fixing our module info in geronimo-jpa.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> But otoh nobody is using modules anyway it seems ...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> LieGrue,
> > > > > >>>>>>>> strub
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Am 11.12.2019 um 06:39 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > >>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Yes this one
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> For openjpa the challenge will likely to not have
> > > module-info in
> > > > > >>>>> main
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> artifacts - guess we can duplicate artifacts with a
> > > classifier
> > > > > >>>>> jpms or
> > > > > >>>>>>>> so -
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to avoid to break some servers and env.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Last thing to take care: all osgi integration, i didnt
> check
> > > > > >>>>> jakarta jar
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> supports it as well as our spec jar.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> So likely some validation work to do but yes it sounds
> like
> > > the
> > > > > >>>>> plan.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hope it helps even if not a straight "yes".
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Le mer. 11 déc. 2019 à 03:57, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > > > >>>>> [email protected]> a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> écrit :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this one:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <dependency>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>  <groupId>org.eclipse.persistence</groupId>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>  <artifactId>jakarta.persistence</artifactId>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>  <version>2.2.2</version>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> </dependency>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Looks good to me!
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Shall I create PR? (the task seems to be doable for me
> :)))
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 01:03, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > >>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I proposed some time ago to rename them all but since
> > > jakarta
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>>>> at
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> eclipse
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> now, i guess well more move to their bundles.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Wdyt?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 18:18, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > > > >>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not sure which list should I ask, so will start here
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have started to add module-info to our project
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The issue I found is:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> openjpa depends on "Apache Geronimo JPA Spec 2.2"
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> geronimo jpa doesn't have automatic module name and
> > > > > >>>>> automatically
> > > > > >>>>>>>> being
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> resolved as
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> geronimo.jpa.2.2.spec
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Which is invalid java identifier :(((
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it would be possible to release same artifact
> with
> > > some
> > > > > >>>>> correct
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> module name for ex. `geronimo.jpa_2_2.spec` and with
> > > > > >>>>> incremented micro
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> version?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe there are other options I\, not aware of?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> WBR
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>> WBR
> > > > > >>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>> WBR
> > > > > >>>>> Maxim aka solomax
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> WBR
> > > > > >> Maxim aka solomax
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > WBR
> > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>

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