Hello infrastructure team, could Apache spare a demo server for Openmeetings technology? Here is a list of requirements or the server:
> virtual Ubuntu host > 1Gb memory > 20 Mbit/s of bandwidth (the more, the better) > 25% of modern 2-core processor We are also interested in opening two jabber channels (for Russian and English real time messaging on openmeetings) with the following requirements 1) history on the web site; 2) rss channel; 3) irc-like group chat; 4) I had four and forgot one... anyway it was conventional Is it somehow possible? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote: > As I see Ross has replied, I dont want to drag this thread out, but to answer > your specific questions below: > > Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:59:17PM +0400: >> [somehow missed dev@] >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > @sebastian sure 20 Mbit/s server that cannot replace openmeetings.de >> > @tony I suspected that bandwidth can be a problem, I recall how Apache >> > Harmony guys were banned due to frequent svn checkouts > > They werent banned due to bandwidth constraints, more that they were most > likely killing the SVN service for everyone else. > >> > I recall Apache owned several donated servers at different places, and >> > the server don't need to be close to the whole Apache infra. Could one >> > of these servers be used, or these remote donated servers are no >> > longer available? > > You need to be clear, the only donated hardware we use are machines running > at Y! that are part of our larger build farm. They are not intended to run > meeting servers. Yes our infrastructure is global, and you are right the > infrastructure doesnt neccesarily have to be in the same rack as everything > else. But there are still some constraints, for example all locations must > be conected to Internet2, or be a direct peer of their service. We also, > dont tend to keep spare physical machines around as we usually plan our > growth and replacement cycle during the budgetting process. In short we can > provide you with a VM, but I would want to see incredibly strong data to back > up the 20Mb requirement. As we will need to pass this up the chain to our > colo, and they their provider. > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:24:08AM +0400: >> >>> Hi Tony, >> >>> >> >>> There are requirements for hosting small conferences for ~8 people >> >>> (like Apache board): >> >>> >> >>> virtual Ubuntu host >> >>> 1Gb memory >> >>> 20 Mbit/s of bandwidth (the more, the better) >> >> >> >> Alexei, we dont have that amount of bandwidth to throw this. Our main US >> >> circuit is only 50Mb. This has to provide all our other services too, >> >> such as svn, mail, www, mail-archives etc. >> >> Right now we are pushinvg that circuit at over 100Mb during peak periods. >> >> Adding another 20Mb is likely to upset folks at OSU. >> >> >> >>> 25% of modern 2-core processor >> >> >> >> Other resources you request should be do-able without a great deal of >> >> strain. It's just the bandwidth requirements that make this look very >> >> unattractive. >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> >>> http://dataved.ru/ >> >>> +7 916 562 8095 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov wrote on Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0400: >> >>> >> Jukka, >> >>> >> I believe there are use cases for real time communication. For >> >>> >> example, GSoC is coming, and one of requirements for student/mentor >> >>> >> pair is to have a Skype interview. Why not to replace it with Apache >> >>> >> Openmetings interview? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Infra folks, >> >>> >> Do you think it makes sense to create Apache openmeetigns demo server, >> >>> >> which can be used for real time communication? >> >>> > >> >>> > To be honest, thats isnt for us to answer, what we will answer to is a >> >>> > request >> >>> > for resources to run something on. However please note that just >> >>> > asking for a >> >>> > 'server' with no real specification of resources required, your >> >>> > request will >> >>> > quite likely grind to a halt. In other words the more information you >> >>> > can give >> >>> > us the better chance you will have of actually getting what you ask >> >>> > for. >> >>> > >> >>> >> How difficult would it be? >> >>> > >> >>> > You tell us, we haven't deployed it before. If we were to give you a >> >>> > 'server' >> >>> > it would amonst certainly be either a Ubuntu VM, or an fBSD Jail. Both >> >>> > of >> >>> > which are I/O restricted as the physical host is shared with others. >> >>> > >> >>> >> Openmeetings could take advantage of good bandwidth. >> >>> > >> >>> > So does skype. :-) >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/ >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM, [email protected] >> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> > @Alexei I can remember it was your question about having a demo >> >>> >> > server @ >> >>> >> > Apache >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>> >> > From: Jukka Zitting <[email protected]> >> >>> >> > Date: 2012/3/5 >> >>> >> > Subject: OpenMeetings status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of >> >>> >> > "March2012" >> >>> >> > by SebastianWagner) >> >>> >> > To: [email protected] >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Hi, >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Thanks for the early report, OpenMeetings! (And good catch on >> >>> >> > reverting the accidental removal of your report.) >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Sounds like you're off to a good start at incubation. I'm looking >> >>> >> > forward to more good news from you! >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Apache Wiki >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >> + - A question for PMC: Should we start a demo server on Apache, >> >>> >> >> so >> >>> >> > people >> >>> >> >> + can benefit from communication? >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > The best approach is probably to bring this idea up with the >> >>> >> > infrastructure team. I'm not sure if many projects or other groups >> >>> >> > within Apache would be interested in such a service (real-time >> >>> >> > communication can be a bit troublesome from a community >> >>> >> > perspective), >> >>> >> > but it doesn't hurt to ask. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> + Problems: >> >>> >> >> + * currently the legal status of our plugins is not 100% clear >> >>> >> >> if we >> >>> >> > are able to maintain and publish them under ASL, see >> >>> >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201202.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-HLOFjCj%3DHopsHz-FP884JyQ5mwHnGPVSrD5TVC_D%2BTw%40mail.gmail.com%3Ewe >> >>> >> > need to discuss that further and get an official statement. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > You can contact also [email protected] if you need more help >> >>> >> > on this. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > BR, >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Jukka Zitting >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> >>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > -- >> >>> >> > Sebastian Wagner >> >>> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de >> >>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ >> >>> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> >>> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> >>> >> > [email protected] >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > >> >>> > Cheers, >> >>> > Tony >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------- >> >>> > Tony Stevenson >> >>> > >> >>> > [email protected] // [email protected] >> >>> > [email protected] >> >>> > >> >>> > http://blog.pc-tony.com >> >>> > >> >>> > GPG - 1024D/51047D66 >> >>> > --------------------------------------" >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Tony >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> Tony Stevenson >> >> >> >> [email protected] // [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> http://blog.pc-tony.com >> >> >> >> GPG - 1024D/51047D66 >> >> --------------------------------------" >> >> >> > > -- > > Cheers, > Tony > > > --------------------------------------- > Tony Stevenson > > [email protected] // [email protected] > [email protected] > > http://blog.pc-tony.com > > GPG - 1024D/51047D66 > --------------------------------------" >
