Ultimately we will need a spec for the VM yes. However it is infra who
will approve the spec in the first instance. The only real restrictions
are:
1 - available resources on the physical host
2 - subject to fair use of the resources
3 - we oblige any local restrictions (providers etc)
So in my head I woudl say something like :
2-4 vcpus
8 GB RAM max (needs some level of justification)
100GB disk
and reasonable use of bandwidth
I know these might be inappropriate - but these are nothing more than
starting points for the conversation to start.
Thoughts?
On 24/09/13 08:49, [email protected] wrote:
I think they are waiting for a spec.
However I am still a bit confused who needs to approve that spec?
Do we need the ASF board to approve that spec?
Thanks
Sebastian
2013/9/24 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
Dear Tony,
Are the any updates on this topic?
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote:
We need to get a vmware host specced up, agreed, purchased, delivered,
racked, installed, configured, a VM created etc,
Once we know this is what we want to do we will need to allow ~1 month
turn-around time. Maybe 6 weeks.
Primarily the delay is in the order, racking, and installing stages. But
also bear in mind our new EU colo has very few services in it.
On 7 Jun 2013, at 07:19, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
wrote:
Artyom,
Tony said,
actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo provider
has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not
QoSed
so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made available
to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that.
Tony, what would be our next step to set up the server at EU colo
provider?
Thanks!
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tony, as I have said, the requirements are not as important as the
fact we have the server running. For those who feel that bandwidth is
not enough or is not reliable enough there is always an option to
switch to other test servers (or install their own server). We may add
a warning message at the welcome screen.
As for your previous question, my AWS bills for two test servers are
~$30 per month though micro-instance is kinda slow, and hetzner bills
are approx. ~$30 per server. For 100 Mbit/s connected server located
in Russia (with higher hosting costs) I pay 250$ / month.
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http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]>
wrote:
Tony Stevenson wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 06:46:55PM +0100:
Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:32:12PM +0400:
Tony, I'm sorry. This was discussed for sure. Things sometimes
change over
time, that's why I have asked once again.
We have have several test servers and chat channels hosted around.
My
intention was to have more
development resources hosted @apache and branded by apache.
Generally that is a good thing. However your requirements are
significant, and this is not something we could in all good faith
commit
too. Sorry.
Alexi, actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo
provider
has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not
QoSed
so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made
available
to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that.
The only issue now is the lack of hardware in this location to 'make
it
so'. We could look at purchasing a new box for the site, but we
wouldnt
be able to guarantee you the 25% of the server you wanted, and it
would
be a virtual machine that we'd give you.
The colo would be in Europe, specifically in Germany. Would this be
an
issue for you?
Please let us know, and I *might* be able to carry this forward.
Please do not mis-read my reply - I was trying to be open and
honest.
While over time we might well be able to offer you all the hardware
you
need, it is so very extremely unlikely we could meet your bandwidth
needs. All our bandwidth is donated to us for free, and as such it
doesnt come in huge quantities; and where we do have it we have to
prioritise core services over that of development instances (i.e.
svn
and http over that of pmc specific needs). It's not that we dont
want
to help, but we only have finite resources, and we need to be
careful
not to over commit them. Bandwith is one such commodity where we
need
to be careful.
One option that springs to mind is the use of AWS and friends, while
they will not guarantee you the resources you want I suspect you
might
get somewhere close most of the time. Though again, if you need
these
as
a minimum resource at all times we will have to look elsewhere.
There might be some money free in the budget to allow you to use
such
a
service. Before we throw up n VMs in an attempt to guess if it will
work
for you, can you perhaps go back to your PMC and discuss the idea of
VMs
with the likes of AWS, and when you find a vendor please do a little
research into the options, then let us know what you want to do.
Please
note that the budget is not endless, and if you want to saturate
20Mb/s
or more, then I guess the bill from AWS will be significant and you
might not get a lot of AWS time as a reuslt - so please look
carefully
and come back to us with options and we can take those forward for
you.
I'm pushing this back to you to do the research as we are kinda
snowed
under somewhat and if you can do this part we might just be able to
say
"go for it" and let you have at it. I stress 'might' :)
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Tony
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